Wednesday, March 29, 2006

Lesson learned

We learned a valuable political lesson recently with the nomination of Harriet Miers. If we make a big enough stink our (alleged) Republican legislators will listen.

We need to make a big stink about amnesty. They shouldn't be able to even talk to their staff because they are so busy answering our phone calls, deleting our emails and opening envelopes with this years political contributions... one peso.

Leave a comment here but also leave a comment on Gordon Smith's answering machine!


Rob said...

If you think that Gordon Smith is going to vote like a bigot against immigrants, you've got another thing coming. You have forgotten where he is from. Eastern Oregon depends on hard working immigrants especially Smith Foods.

The first step is for amnesty, the second is to get them health coverage and better wages.

If you don't like it or get it move to another country.

Anonymous said...

Hey Rob, how about you get out of my country. You obviously don't understand the many detrimental impacts immigration is having on our society. Illegal immigration is destroying our culture and way of life. So if you are part of those who advocate for lower wages, inadequate funding for schools and hospitals, then you are either a dullard and are unable to fully comprehend what is at stake or are an active paricipant in undermining our great country and quality of life. You either need to work on educating yourself and support policies that are beneficial to American CITIZENS, or you need to move to Mexico.

I'll help you pack.

Daniel said...

Whose going to give them health coverage Rob? The employer or the taxpayers?

Anonymous said...

Smith will, unfortunately, refuse to do anything that makes waves... in any direction. He will wait until at least 50 other Senators have committed to something, and then he'll join in, to get his name on something that passed. But until either side gets up to 50 votes, he'll sit back and do nothing, except promise to side with whoever is willing to cosponsor whatever his pet project of the day is.

Anonymous said...

Don't Hate

Bob H. said...

United States Code. TITLE 8, CHAPTER 12, SUBCHAPTER II, Part VIII, SEC. 1325.
Sec. 1325.- Improper entry by alien
(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepriesentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a meterial fact, shall, for the fist commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisioned not more than 6 months, or bothm, and for a subsequent commisssion of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

United States Code. TITLE 8, CHAPTER 12, SUBCHAPTER II, Part IV, Sec. 1227 (a)(1)(C)
(i) Nonimmigrant status violators
Any alien who was admitted as a nonimmigrant and who has failed to maintain the nonimmigrant status in which the alien was admitted or to which it was changed under section 1258 of this title or to complhy with the conditions of any such status, is

Don't hate, educate.

Anonymous said...

Illegal immigration is destroying our culture and way of life

What would that be? The ceaspool of bigotry, corruption, fanaticism and mythology that the Conservative Republicans are implementing in America? Some culture, huh. No wonder the immigrants wave the Mexican flag. Do you blame them?

Tim said...

Hey Anonymous, the one who believes America is a "Ceaspool of bigotry, corruption, fanaticism and mythology that the Conservative Republicans are implementing" Do you mean to say that Conservative Republicans are implementing the same system as Mexico, or the DNC? Hardly! But it just shows why you choose to be anonymous, no guts to own your opinion , you just recite the socialist talking points. Put the Kool-aid down an have a thought of your own sometime.

el razonador said...

FYI -- some enlightening and timely points and analyses are provided by folks at the Migration Policy Institute.

I'm on their mailing list, and the intro to an e-mail I received this morning follows (in case some of you might be interested in actually discussing the issue based on facts, rather than using the issue to personally attack anyone who disagrees with you):

The Migration Policy Institute is a nonpartisan think tank dedicated to analysis of
the movement of people worldwide.

March 30, 2006

Immigration reform has taken center stage in US politics both nationally and
locally. This week, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed a sweeping immigration
reform bill. This expansive immigration reform as well as nation-wide protests
aimed at the recent measure passed in the House of Representatives come just as
President Bush meets with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister
Stephen Harper in CancĂșn, Mexico today.

MPI seeks to provide fact-based analysis for policymakers, journalists, educators,
and nonprofits engaged in the US immigration debate. The resources below are
designed to eliminate guesswork and misinformation by presenting reliable,
easy-to-access data and thoughtful analysis. Also included is a list of MPI
analysts available for media interviews. They include:

* Analysis prepared for MPI's Independent Task Force on Immigration and America's
- US Immigration Reform: Setting the Agenda
- The Unauthorized Population
- Meeting National Security and Immigration Enforcement Imperatives
- Immigration and US Labor Markets
* MPI Experts
* Facts and Data from the Migration Information Source
* Coming Soon from MPI

Rooster said...

El Razonador,

(in case some of you might be interested in actually discussing the issue based on facts, rather than using the issue to personally attack anyone who disagrees with you):

Okay, let's discuss some facts. The United States of America has laws for immigration. That is a fact.

People who come to this country illegally have broken those laws. That is a fact.

People who break laws are criminals. That is a fact.

Illegal aliens are criminals and should be treated as such. That is a fact.

What is left to discuss?

thanks so much,


Scottiebill said...

Hey, Rooster, Razonador and the ultra-liberal, Bush-hating, illegal-loving pontificator Anonymous do not have in their collective vocabularies the word "illegal" nor do they have any inkling at all as to it's meaning. They have found a platform from which to spout their anti-American, illegal Mexican-loving garbage (the alQaeda Civil Liberties Unions would love them) and they are using it to undermine the efforts of the good people of this country to keep the illegals out. If these aliens want to come here in a legal manner, they should make all the proper applications to the Immigration Service and come in honestly and legally.

Apparently, Razonador and Anonymous have difficulty in understanding that concept. Bob H cited the Federal law covering illegal entry into the country. Perhaps he should also cite the law that states that aiding and abetting illegal actions is also a crime. But, pondering on Razonador and Anonymous and their spoutings, they probably wouldn't understand that law, either.

Bob H. said...

DONE: Hiring, Recruiting, and Harboring Illegal Aliens Are All Federal Felony Offenses.
United States Code. TITLE 8, CHAPTER 12, SUBCHAPTER II, Part VIII.
Sec. 1323. Unlawful bringing of aliens into United States. "It shall be unlawful for any bring to the United States from any place outside thereof...any alien who does not have a valid passport and an unexpired visa..."
Sec. 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens: Any person "knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such aliens in any place" shall be "fined" or imprisioned..."
Sec. 1324a. Unlawful employment of aliens: "It is unlawful for a person or other entity to hire, or to recruit...for employment in the United States an alien knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien..."

terrance said...

Harriet Miers didn't withdraw because rank and file made a big stink. Check out the polls: 44% of conservatives were disappointed and 22% were unsure about their feelings on her withdrawal. Only 34% of conservatives were pleased. Most Republicans and most conservatives didn't want her to withdraw.

The real lesson is that no one pays attention to voters until they vote.

If you think a stink is effective, why not target Sen. Wyden as well?

Anonymous said...

the thing people need to look at is that they are illegals, BUT they are being punished in a way for them to be able to become legal residents. (There's a way because they are only criminals for coming into this country BuT Should NOT be considered criminals for that matter). For Them To Become Residents. They must for for 5-6 years, and pay 2,000usd. They must also learn english and have there criminal recod clear AND must pay their taxes. This is NOT amnesty! Therefore, these people are being punished in a way for them to be able to become Legal residents. This Applies for those undocumented people who have been here before the year 2004. Again, I repeat this is not amnesty nor is it unfairness. These people must work hard! If they fail to do accomplish the requirements, then the good thing is THEY will be easily identified and taken out of this country. But for those who accomplish this, they will then get in the back of the like for citizenship. This Is Far The Best!