Monday, February 20, 2006

Oregon: We love illegal aliens

DMV forgery acquittals follow string of guilty pleas
Prosecutors were optimistic going into court against three Hillsboro brothers accused of helping thousands of nonresidents fraudulently obtain Oregon driver's licenses.

Eight others in Oregon's biggest immigration fraud case already had pleaded guilty to a collection of charges, including racketeering and forgery. And many of those were lined up to testify against Miguel, Fabio and Sergio Robleto, who prosecutors said were the brains behind a scheme run from the brothers' driver training and testing businesses.

But on Tuesday, a Washington County judge closed cases against Fabio and Sergio Robleto after finding them not guilty of all charges. A different judge acquitted Miguel Robleto in November.

Others who pleaded guilty said they brought illegal immigrants from other states to the two schools, helped them fill out driver's license applications with phony information and took them to Oregon Driver and Motor Vehicle Services offices to have the documents certified.

The important part in this whole story is in that paragraph: "they brought illegal immigrants from other states." You can't get away with this garbage in other states. Only Oregon is so friendly to illegal aliens.

28 comments:

RINO WATCH said...

Daniel,

Unfortunately, judging by the lack of comments here and at Rinowatch,
no one but us seems to be interested.

The most stunning statement made at trial was by Judge Michael J McElligott.

Seconds before issuing Not Guilty verdicts, McElligott said:

"Clearly, Crimes were Committed".......

Sad.....so Sad

Sue K. said...

If crimes were clearly committed and others have plead guilty to various charges, then why weren't these guys found guilty? I did see that dmv(?) was going to try and track down the people who may have obtained licenses illegally through this business. I'm not going to hold my breath though. This and the carousels of (illegal) information could be stopped this instant!! Our Governor remains silent. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Outcomes like this one just screams the message, "The door is wide open for Oregonians to be screwed by illegals."

Scottiebill said...

These people in Hillsboro are going to be prosecuted for aiding and abetting illegals in getting drivers licenses. Why, then, can't Kulongoski and SecState Bradbury be prosecuted for doing the very same thing? Kulongoski for doing absolutely nothing to stop the various agencies for catering to the illegals and Bradbury for allowing illegals to register to vote and for co-hosting that illegal-friendly get-together in Salem last summer. To let these two off the prosecutorial hook is unconscionable. The prosecutors are being biasedly selective in whom they prosecute. After all, to quote the Bush administration critics in D.C., no one is above the law.

Sue K. said...

I wouldn't be surprised to see TK campaigning for votes at the scheduled carousels of information in the coming months. I think he has just about alienated everyone else from voting for him.

I think all the DL's that were issued from that driving school should be flagged (and you know dmv can do it). Anyone who has an illegal driver's license from that school OR the state of should be arrested. If the person possessing one of these illegal licenses is involved in some sort of crime or crash, the victim(s) should be able to sue the school AND the state of Oregon for damages.

The Gentle Cricket said...

I was glad to see that these three were being prosecuted. When I heard that a few months back I thought it was out of character for Oregon. Letting them off seems more like Oregon. It's all part of The Second Mexican War.

I just don't understand how someone can admit guilt to something like this, but still not be found not-guilty? I, for one, will be writing a letter to the judge.

The Gentle Cricket said...

By the way, does 'bringing illegal immigrants from other states' count as interstate commerce? Afterall, the main argument by RINO's who support the Bush "not-amnesty" amnesty proposal is that our economy is dependent upon illegal immigrant labor. I assume that the Robleto brothers were making money off of the aliens.

Brent said...

Why doesn't anyone ever discuss invading Mexico, and taking it over? I'm serious. If we did that, it would solve the illegal problem, and all the Hispanics could go back to Mexico. I'm not racist or anything, I just think that their culture is defective and could use some education and values.

Robert said...
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Robert said...

What do you expect when there are republican candidates like Jason Atkinson that support amnesty for illegal aliens. It is no wonder we have a court system like this in Oregon.

PCUN's candidate for Oregon governor: Jason Atkinson

Robert

Anonymous said...

No Brent, you're not a racist. Not a racist at all. Whatever makes you feel better, buddy.

Brent said...

Typical liberal response. Doesn't make one effort to deny my point about Mexican culture, just calls me a racist AND, lacking any guts, fails to identify himself (or herself). Typical.

Anonymous said...

Brent -- here's a website where you're certain to feel at home www.duke.org

Brent said...

Another tired liberal tactic: call people Nazis.

Anon - while I don't agree with David Duke, I can say this: unlike you, at least he cares about this country. You, on the other hand, would let Mexicans (or anyone else) take it away from us.

Daniel said...

Anon, what is racist about what Brent said? That Mexico's culture is defective?

A culture of corruption, a culture that allows adults men to have sex with young girls, a culture where lawlessness is apparently acceptable.

I would say that there is something defective there as well.

Anonymous said...

What nation doesn't have "defective" elements? Mexico is a nation of over 100 million people, ethnically, linguistically and regionally diverse, with a rich history that predates that of the United States. It is slowly coming out of nearly a century's worth of one-party rule, maintained through political corruption. Fox is the first non-PRI president since the revolution, and the 2000 election was recognized around the world as Mexico's first fair election of the twentieth century. There are now firmly three legitimate parties. They are well on their way to democratic reform and modernization. To single-handedly dismiss the culture of an entire nation as defective, is not only ignorant, is also extremely ethnocentric. So, Brent's not a racist; but he is a xenophobe. Or, maybe he's just poorly educated.

Sue K. said...

Mexico is a nation of approximately 88 or 89 million people. The other 11 or 12 million are in the United States illegally.

Brent said...

So sorry, anonymous, you elitist prick. You're right, I spoke too fast. I guess we just get the 11 or 12 million defective "elements" from that pristine Mexican culture. All the rapists, drug dealers and disease-ridden swine.

The reason I'm so poorly educated is because I went to public school, where all of their non-English speaking children are clogging up the classrooms and dragging down the rest to their decrepit level.

I'm for invading Mexico for some pressure-cooker modernization AMERICAN-STYLE! Short of that, I say we impose marshall law, round up all of the illegals, and kick their child-raping, drug abusing, disease-ridden asses back to Mexico, and you along with it!

Michael T. said...

WOW, xenophobic right out of the Mexican government and open borders talking points. Let's see Webster says xenophobic is a fear of Foreigners. Not so, I don't fear foreigners I fear Mexicans and other nationalities walking into our country by the millions illegally. Mexico is and always has been a corrupt country from top to bottom; with untold natural wealth, yet it still lingers as a third world country. All the millions of her parasitic citizens living here illegally, maintain the corrupt government of Mexico with the millions sent back to it. Here is a thought, if Mexico is so wonderful why not go back, let Mexico employ, educate, feed, house, provide medical care and all other social benefits, for it's citizens?
Yet, God Bless the Mexican citizen who comes here legally, learns English, takes an oath of allegiance to America, supports the US Constitution, obeys the laws of the US and most of all renounces any foreign allegiance (some of the requirements to become a naturlaized American Citizen) They have been the backbone of this country, along with all the other nationalitites, who simply want to be AMERICAN.

Anonymous said...

Michael -- enlighten me. What are all of these natural wealth sources you're talking about? Their oil industry is miniscule, and by definition, a small source of employment. The ejido system of agricultural production and land ownership has displaced countless peasants who had farmed for their own subsistence. The U.S./World Bank/IMF is draconian with its insistence that the Mexican government not provide farm subsidies (even though we do to our own farmers on large scale). The tourism industry -- hotels, clubs, cruise lines, airlines etc. -- not to mention most of the nation's utilities are owned predominantly by American companies, not Mexican ones that are more likely to re-invest in their communities. The utter lack of a welfare state causes poor families to send its able-bodied members to the U.S. to earn money as a risk-diversification strategy. I think that it's ironic that you want the Mexican government to do what you wish the American government wouldn't do at all -- provide for its citizens via a welfare state.

As I said earlier, fertility levels are way down, and there are strong signs that political corruption has declined. This points to a decrease in illegal migration. Furthermore, the overwhelming majority of immigrants -- illegal and legal -- DO return to Mexico.

Daniel said...

Anon, their oil industry is so bad because they don't allow private investment, it's all state owned.

Anonymous said...

Daniel - do you care to elucidate on this point? What effect would privatizing Pemex have on the country other than to esure that more of the state's revnue flows out of the country? Their oil supply simply isn't that big. Lopez Portillo banked on it being much larger than it actually turned out to be once the engineers had done their work, which resulted in the peso crisis of the early 80s. So, I'm not seeing your point.

Oregon Infidel said...

The Judge needs to sit down and do some soul searching. Maybe he'll find one.

Oregon Infidel said...

This Message is for Anonymous:

Just when I think, "Surely this person has reached and encapsulates the limits of Internet tedium" you go and push the boundary even further. Rumor has it that you are almost incomprehensible in person (as revealed by your desperate urge to babble nonsensically on message boards.) No doubt, this rumor is true.

If your brain matter was axle grease, there wouldn't be enough in your head to grease the dynamo on a lightening bug's ass. You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder. If you knew what you're talking about, you'd be dangerous. I suggest you need Mark Twain's advice; "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

You light up a room when you leave it. No doubt your life is so dull, that you can actually write your diary one week in advance. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers. Maybe you wouldn't read like such a pathetic loser if you didn't lack even the dim flicker of sentience needed to qualify as an imbecile; No, come to think of it, you would.

In conclusion, thank you. We were all refreshed and challenged by your not-so-unique point of view.

Daniel said...

Two birds with one stone here:

Mexico produces more oil than Iraq. (pre-war and post war)

So much for the "war for oil" since it would probably be easier to make Mexico the 51st state and so much for Mexico not having much oil.

SOURCE

Anonymous said...

Daniel -- Thanks for correcting me. My understanding of Mexico's oil supply, and the debate over privatizing Pemex, comes from Enrique Krauze's history of Mexico and from Opening Mexico by Preston and Dillon of the NYT. I still don't see why privatizing Pemex would miraculously bring Mexico to the post-industrial age. It's practically the only thing not privatized by now.

Infidel -- You've shown that you have a writing talent and that you are apt at spending your overwhelmingly useful and precious liesure time insulting me. But you, like just about everyone else here, besides Daniel, prefers insults to actually lodging a counter-argument to those that I am making.

Daniel said...

Anon, I just think that private business always makes better use of resources than government.

I think that a private companies would provide more jobs, more infrastructure, and increase efficiency allowing for more exploitation of the available resources.

Anonymous said...

How would privitization provide more jobs? How would this ensure the development Mexico needs, especially if it's purchased by foreigner, which seems very likely?

Anonymous said...

So can someone please tell me how many were at the protest in Portland last Saturday? One article in a paper says 2,000. Another said 4,000. These papers i gave them the what for, as terrible reporting. Thank you.