Sunday, November 27, 2005

But if the question was switched then it would be ok

Bryan Harding over at Gay Rights Watch is very upset about a New Mexico public school essay contest that asks students to "explain why preserving marriage between men and women is vital [to] society and why unborn children merit respect and protection."

Apparently the gay groups and NARAL "have proposed offering students a choice of also writing about alternative viewpoints."

Funny, when it comes to schools that want to push homosexuality on the kids these are the same groups who want to call "alternative viewpoints" hate speech.

And my favorite quote by an LGBT hack: "Students in taxpayer-funded public schools simply shouldn't be forced to accept one viewpoint over another, regardless of the issue."

I'm sure that if a pro-gay essay was assigned and a group came out against it then this same lady would be calling them hateful bigots.

14 comments:

Kaelri said...

"...schools that want to push homosexuality on the kids..."

Meh. Quips like that tend to be the definitive mark of ignorant hackery, but to each his own.

Daniel said...

So are you saying that most public schools are neutral on whether or not homosexuality is ok?

Kate said...

I think the Portland Public Schools has a special outreach and counseling program for the kids whose parents are 1) married legally and 2) not the same sex as each other.

Kaelri said...

"So are you saying that most public schools are neutral on whether or not homosexuality is ok?"

Whatever stance they have on whether it's "ok" isn't quite the same as "pushing it on the kids," which is both absurd and impossible.

And why would a school even have a position? How would they even pick one? And what would they do with it once they did, fundraisers for marriage incentives? I fail completely to see the connection but would love to be enlightened.

Tony said...

You have such a problem understanding because you have a preconceived premise that says that homosexuality is perfectly acceptable, it is predetermined and not just a behavior, etc.

Parents who have a different view, who might want to teach their children that it is unhealthy, and despite one's predeliction toward the behavior it is ultimately a choice, but that doesn't mean we hate gay people, well, their view is considered neanderthal and the school will not respect it.

Rather, it will teach the kids that gay is good, and experimentation is good, and people who have reservations about this behavior are backward, like people who opposed civil rights for blacks or voting rights for women.

So by continuing to condone homosexuality, yes, they are "pushing" it on kids, rather than simply saying that discussions of that sort of thing are inappropriate at a public school.

Anonymous said...

Nazi punk, Fuck off.

Gunslinger said...

Here we go again with the telephone tough guy.

Daniel, I don't think you should censor your site, but how about deleting that idiot?

Kaelri said...

"You have such a problem understanding because you have a preconceived premise that says that homosexuality is perfectly acceptable, it is predetermined and not just a behavior, etc."

I would love nothing more than for you to tell me how you came to that conclusion.

"Rather, it will teach the kids that gay is good, and experimentation is good, and people who have reservations about this behavior are backward, like people who opposed civil rights for blacks or voting rights for women."

As a student actively enrolled in a public high school, I feel thoroughly justified in saying that you seem to have no idea what you're talking about.

Tim Lewis said...

Stay in school.

Gunslinger said...

Kaleri, I did not know that you were in high school...

I am going to have to weigh in with Tim here. I think you have a lot to learn about life, and the real world. I am, however, impressed that a high schooler is at least involved politically (even though you are on the wrong side. :-P) Keep at it!

Daniel said...

I too am impressed with kaelri. Not so much with the conclusions that he has reached but he is articulate.

Are you on the debate team kaelri?

As for the anonymous poster who suggests that I "fuck off," I'm not going to delete that. It serves as a great contrast to kaelri's attempts at discussion.

But yes gunslinger, I do quake in my boots when someone threatens me over the internet. It's very scary for me.

Tim Lewis said...

Honestly, I'm glad you're here too kaelri.

Kaelri said...

Thank you.

Don't usually like to tell people I'm debating with much about my background, 'specially my age; I don't like special consideration either way. Couldn't resist this time, though - think I know better than Tony that an American public school in 2005 would sooner give every student a complimentary GPA bump than sacrifice political correctness.

Tim Lewis said...

Anything to get more government money for their teacher salaries and pension.