Wednesday, April 12, 2006

Can't make a good case

An interesting conversation is going on over on City Commissioner Sam Adam's blog.

Sam's Remarks at Immigration Rally

His first few respondents were very opposed to the idea of illegal immigration and said so. The response from Sam's office:

"Diversity is a value that this office holds near and dear. Several of our staff members have immigrated to the US and several more have very close family that chose this country for the enormous opportunities available here. None of this is about politics, or revolutionary romanticism- it's about respect, fairness and dignity. Sam is simply asking for new immigrants to be treated in a similar way as his grandparents were when coming here."

People were quick to point out that Sam's grandparents came here legally and so to be treated the same it only makes sense to enforce our immigration laws.

But hey, if "diversity" is a good reason to break the law according to a city commissioners office then who am I to disagree...


MAX Redline said...

What is it about politicians that renders them incapable of understanding the meaning of the term, "illegal"?

Sue K. said...

So.....are these staff members and their close family members legal immigrants or "illegal" aliens?

Anonymous said...

One of the unexpected benefits of Diversity is visible with how homosexuals and pot heads (who don't have many kids) have caused Portland's schools to become echo chambers.

The vacant schools could be converted to giant bath-houses, smoke chambers and hospice care facilities. Save the incinerators.

extremepolitics said...

Great Stuff Daniel!

Big Mike Lewis

Anonymous said...

Dear President Bush, and all Members of the House & the Senate:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.
Thank you so much for your kind help.
Joe Taxpayer

BEAR said...

ANON - You the man! Well said.

Bruce said...

DIVERSITY IS PERVERSITY.....I'm sick of this diversity shit. It is so damn diverse in this country and up here in the Northwest i'm surprised my residency permit hasn't been revoked because i am an evil hated european descendent. Worse yet....i like women and worse upon worse case scenarios i don't speak friggin Spanish (and never will learn either) For all you PC people...that means i am a white man.....and proud of it!!!!
Apologies to NO ONE......especially minorities!!!

Khaldun said...

bruce, I'm not surprised that everyone hates you - but it sure as hell isn't "because your white" ...

fish_on said...

Illegals' Amnesty Could Cost $60 Billion a Year, Group Says
By Randy Hall Staff Writer/Editor
April 11, 2006

( - If an illegal immigrant amnesty or guest worker program similar to the ones being contemplated by the U.S. Senate and supported by President Bush were enacted, the cost to state and local governments would be staggering, an immigration reform group charged Tuesday.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that state and local costs associated with illegal immigration for public education, health care and incarceration, now about $36 billion a year, would balloon to $61.5 billion by 2010 -- a 70 percent increase -- and increase to $106.3 billion by 2020.

As a result of an amnesty and a vastly expanded guest worker program, millions of current illegal aliens would gain legal access to government programs and services, a FAIR analysis states.

Moreover, newly legalized aliens would be allowed to bring their dependents to this country, adding to the burdens on schools and public health care. Similarly, state and local governments would have to provide for the education and health care of the dependents of the 400,000 new guest workers called for in the Senate proposal.

"From every possible angle, an illegal alien amnesty and guest worker program would be a fiscal and administrative nightmare," said Dan Stein, president of FAIR. "Never mind the fact that an illegal alien amnesty is a moral betrayal of the American public and immigrants who played by the rules.

"It would be an unfunded federal mandate that will bankrupt states, counties and cities all across the United States," Stein added.

Contrary to claims by proponents of amnesty, the tax contributions of newly legalized illegal aliens would not offset the additional costs, he stated. The estimated 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S. are overwhelmingly poorly educated and low skilled.

Even with legalization, their earning potential would be very limited, Stein noted. With the ability to legitimately claim dependents on their returns, their tax contributions would be negligible at best, and with programs like the Earned Income Tax Credit, many will actually get more back than they pay in.

None of the federal or local costs associated with an illegal alien amnesty or a massive guest worker program has even been considered as part of the Senate's deliberations, he said.

When asked point blank about the ramifications of their proposed legislation, Senate amnesty and guest worker supporters admitted that they have not been worked out. "The devil is in the details," said the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

"'The devil is in the details' is an utterly reckless and irresponsible way to conduct public policy," responded Stein. "The fiscal, social, environmental and demographic consequences of what the Senate is proposing would be staggering.

"In an effort to respond to special interest pressure, the Senate and the Bush administration seem prepared to rush forward without any rational assessment of what it would mean for the future of the nation," he noted.

"We have seen where the 'devil is in the details' approach has gotten us in Iraq. The president and others pushing amnesty and guest workers have an obligation to think this one all the way through before acting," Stein concluded.

A breakdown of the calculation of amnesty costs and a state by state impact analysis can be found at FAIR's website.

Scottiebill said...

Max, It is part of their DNA makeup. When these people become politicians, they check their brains at the door so they won't have to be bothered with tehm again. Sorta like bruce and roger doger, and anonymous the ultra-liberal, illegal alien adoring pontificator.

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