Thursday, June 15, 2006

Now I get it

I didn't understand all the ballyhoo about the three dirtbags who hung themselves at Guantanamo Bay until today. Apparently it's created quite a problem... the Gitmo soccer teams are now uneven!

21 comments:

BEAR said...

These idiots have been told by their aclu ambulance chasers that most Americans adore them and want to be terrorized. They actually BELIEVED they would be missed and mourned, here. BWAAAAHAAHAAA!!! Good riddance to pond scum, with my apologies to pond scum everywhere.

BEAR said...

BTW, thanx to the aclu.....every little bit helps.

Kaelri said...

Call me gutless, but for some reason, I just can't quite find the right artistic channel to make jokes out of people murdering themselves. Maybe I'm in the minority, but misery and death just aren't funny to me.

BEAR said...

thanx for self-identifying yourself, kid. You and your apologist pals have, due to your gutless, appeasing ways, enabled much of the misery and death the "religion of peace" has wrought upon the world. When vicious killers off themselves, we know two things....they no longer pose a threat to children or others,.....and liberal appeasers will feel sorry for them. The only reason the aclu will miss them is because they can no longer collect money for defending barbarity. Kaelri, you and other libs are not capable of understanding true evil. It's not about "artistic channels." It's about beheading innocent people. Please, no more of your phony naivete.....grow up!

Bruce said...

Kaelri...IT'S ALWAYS a good thing when rag-heads commit suicide. That means one less to reproduce baby rag-heads that will, in 18 years, come over here and cause trouble or blow something up. Basically the whole Muslim race is GOOD FOR NOTHING in my opimion and if genocide were to be practiced on anybody....it should be the rag-heads.

MAX Redline said...

Kelri,

I can appreciate your position on this matter, because suicide seems a terrible waste.

At the same time, I think it's important to remember that until now there has never been a successful suicide at Guantanamo, and that this was not a random act of despair, but a coordinated act born of desperation, not despair.

The Americans have systematically deprived these individuals of their greatest goal: martyrdom in the cause of Allah. It was clear that they were never going to have an opportunity to engage in glorious beheaddings and bombings in the name of Allah; never have another opportunity to attain martyrdom on the battlefield, either. All of these things would be forever denied them.

Hence, in what passes for their minds, the only way to achieve the goal would be by suicide. Hunger striking didn't work; they were force-fed. Clearly, they had to come up with a different approach.

Although such acts are popularly referred to as "hanging", that's an inaccurate characterization.

All that is required is to cut off flow from the carotid artery in the neck. Deprived of oxygen, the brain quickly dies, and it is this - not suffocation - that accomplishes the suicide.

It can be done in a sitting position, using a scrap of sheet attached to a faucet or bedframe.

While I believe that these individuals are demonic, I see nothing to gain by demonizing them further. They are what they have demonstrated themselves to be.

Anonymous said...

Geee, I didn't know Muslim was a race. Imagime that.

Anonymous said...

Guess I should have put an N in imagine.

Kaelri said...

This has been a most intriguing cross-section of responders...

Max: I agree completely, and appreciate yours being the one post here that seems to take death seriously.

"While I believe that these individuals are demonic, I see nothing to gain by demonizing them further. They are what they have demonstrated themselves to be."

Well said.

"thanx for self-identifying yourself, kid. You and your apologist pals have, due to your gutless, appeasing ways, enabled much of the misery and death the 'religion of peace' has wrought upon the world. When vicious killers off themselves, we know two things....they no longer pose a threat to children or others,.....and liberal appeasers will feel sorry for them. The only reason the aclu will miss them is because they can no longer collect money for defending barbarity. Kaelri, you and other libs are not capable of understanding true evil. It's not about 'artistic channels.' It's about beheading innocent people. Please, no more of your phony naivete.....grow up!"

All I'm going to do is remind everyone else what I said that prompted this: I simply don't think suicide is funny.

gullyborg said...

What IS funny is that they are dead because the International Red Cross DEMANDED that they have privacy.

Before the IRC came in and demanded that the prisoners be able to close blinds and have privacy (a "right" of prisoners, apparently), many suicide attempts were thwarted by alert guards who saw what was happening and took action.

After the IRC demanded blinds, the prisoners were able to plan their deaths and execute them without interference from the "evil" guards, who would have kept them alive.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all week. That tops the dude who got ate by the grizzly bear in the video.

Anonymous said...

if only our criminals could follow this fine example

Crackpot said...

"That's the funniest thing I've heard all week."

Ironic perhaps, but I'd hardly classify it as "funny". Don't get me wrong, I have one hell of a sense of humor. Guess I'm just incapable of deriving joy or delight from the death of another, even if the deceased happens to be some misguided dirtbag or a fool. That's not amusing.

BEAR said...

Considering the abuse that American soldiers and guards had to put up with from these scum on a daily basis, their deaths are most amusing and welcome. Rumor has it, (well-meaning) MAX R., the detainees were being told by their fellows that Allah required 3 suicides to affect the release of them all. Check it out. They MAY have gotten this from the Democratic Caucus in Congress, who seem to need help in the pro-terrorist propaganda war, hoping that liberals would hit the streets when the killers died. Didn't happen, because too many Americans were......wait for it.....HAPPY!!!!

Crackpot said...

Bear,

Not suggesting we should mourn for the so-called enemy combatants, but celebrating their deaths sends a piss poor message. Can you really feel good about the death of another? If so, I gotta question your humanity.

Bruce said...

When somebody say's they want to see me or my daughter dead just because i am an American and NOT Muslim...YES, if they die first, I REJOICE IN THEIR DEATH. No shame in my game. That's just human reaction.

BEAR said...

I will rejoice every time evil is reduced. Every time a brutal killer is executed by our legal system, between 6 and 24 subsequent murders are prevented. Take your phony hand-wringing somewhere else. If someone enters my "blood circle" with the stated intent to harm my family or me, I have the right to kill them without hesitation. The only "message" that should follow is.....NEXT!! Why don't any of the lefties out there go up to the terrorists and other killers out there and whine about THEIR "piss poor message?" Oh yeah, then you'd be DEAD! And then you couldn't plague us with your nonsense.....THERE'S a tragedy.

Crackpot said...

Angry Bear,

I certainly wouldnt convict you for protecting yourself, your family or defending your country from it's enemies. I'm not a pacifist. Point was, we should not relish death. That's what "they" do and I'd like to believe that we are better than they.

That is all

MAX Redline said...

Bear,

"the detainees were being told by their fellows that Allah required 3 suicides to affect the release of them all. Check it out. They MAY have gotten this from the Democratic Caucus in Congress, who seem to need help in the pro-terrorist propaganda war, hoping that liberals would hit the streets when the killers died."

I'd not heard that part, but it does make a lot of sense. Sometimes it's hard for me to figure out who's more twisted: the demons cuurently inhabiting cells in Gitmo, or the demons currently inhabiting Congress.

I invented the mullet said...

"Suicide is painless..." [Song from MASH]

Yeah, we should all feeeel bad because three thugs killed themselves. Sorry, can't do it.
I really do want to feeeel some thing, I know it's inseeeennsitive of me, but three dead terrorists ( or supporters therof) offing themselves just doesn't reach me.
When you're at war with an enemy who will cut your head off with a dull knife given half a chance ( ala Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl), there is no room for the politicly correct notion of mourning their loss.
In the new PC world, we have forgotten how to demonize our enemies. Sure, we have to make them less than human (as if they haven't already done that for themselves) as it's easier to kill vermin.
Did we worry about offending the Japanese? We were at war with a barbarian army. Look at the posters and billboards of those days. Were we seeennsitive to Hitler? "Aw those poor downtrodden nazis. What did we do to make them hate us?"
While we should mourn the death of a human being, these "people" don't qualify.
BTW, 9/11 DID happen. It wasn't a lazer light show at OMSI. How many AMERICANS died that day? Remember people leaping from the 80th floor?
Ah, screw it! Either you're WITH us, or...

I am about a non-PC as they come. Don't like it? I don't care.

Crackpot said...

Mullet,

Are we discussing the same thread here? Who has suggested that we should "feeeel" bad because a few Gitmo detainees offed themselves?

If you're referring to any of my comments, you missed my point. Merely tried to suggest that we should be mindful of taking glee from death. You know- destroy your enemy, learn to think like your enemy but do not become your enemy.

I could go off on a philosophical rant here, but cracking a beer and lighting the BBQ sounds like a lot more fun.

I invented the mullet said...

Crackpot,
Well, I just like to rant once in a while. Though I do believe that some folks have let Political Correctness blind them to the unfortunate job that must be done.
While I agree we should not relish death, I still maintain that mourning the death of your enemy is counter productive to a proper end (our victory) of conflict.

"[B]ut cracking a beer and lighting the BBQ sounds like a lot more fun."
On THIS we can agree!