makes me wonder what the stats are for the legal scum that lives here.spend some of that state money on prisons(tent camps). no tv.
Thirty (30) million illegal aliens; ten (10) percent of the total population of the United States of America. That is the statistic we need to confront the open borders crowd with, and put it under their nose!Make the open borders crowd disprove that number, or why they think that number is O.K.
Give me a break! If you're going to debate the issue, at least use accurate estimates. Embellishing figures only renders your entire argument worthy of suspicion. The actual estimate from the leading demographer of undocumented immigration, Jeff Passel, is about 12 million.http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.php?ReportID=61Embellishing anon12:34 - consider your number disproven, unless you can come up with a more reliable source (good luck). And I don't think that any number of undocumented in our country is okay...I think we just have a different resolution.But at least I'm not peddling fallacious numbers.
I beg to differ, senior, You have one study, I have another. BUT THE POINT IS TELLINGLY MADE, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH... because it shreds all your excuses and faulty rationalizations. 30 million spells out just how badly broken our system of border control is. Sorry, but one so called "study" by an obvious shill only encourages me in the feeling your side of the argument is crumbling under the weight of the bare knockled truth!
"consider your number disproven" Ha, waiving some paper in my face, does not disprove anything. There is a study for any season. My first spear has landed in el Razonador's political chest. What it bob from side to side.
The open borders Troglodytes will ignore facts no matter how valid. Go to the web site read how they collect their data, if you dispute the method or source, contact them. Bear Sterns estimated a number of 20 million illegals some time ago. The illegal alien invasion numbers are not static and grow every minute of every day, our borders are not secure and our immigration laws not enforced. Citizens are waking up and smelling what our President, Senate and open borders zelots are shoveling.
Don't matter, actually. TOO DAMN MANY! No matter which count you like and/or support. Sure as H buries the '11 million' the open borders (they only want to work) argument.
What we see with our own eyes should be a clue that there are more immigrants here than have been reported. Last March I ended up in the emergency room in Bakersfield, CA, while attending a convention. I was in severe pain. I suffered for several hours without relief even though I was brought in by ambulance. The ER waiting room was almost all non-English speaking people. The volume of people was such that it was impossible to attend to everyone's needs. There are nightmare situations like that all over Southern CA. Some of you can quibble over the statitics all you want. The facts are that if you want inadequate medical care due to being overrun with non-English speaking immigrants, all you have to do is go to cities in S. CA. It has to be the same in other states.There are too many people at one time vying for our health and government services to handle.
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