Thursday, July 13, 2006

America & Israel VS Radical Islam

There is no better blog coverage on the conflict between Israel and radical Islam than Little Green Footballs.

This is the madness that Israel and America are up against:


Kids taught to attack Israeli towns.


Only the kids don't get masks.


Yes, peace. She would gladly walk into Berkley holding up the peace sign and then blow herself and all you good peace-loving liberals sky high.

38 comments:

BEAR said...

Daniel, you FIEND!! How dare you defame and slander, and....and...and...the "religion of peace?" Ask kaelri if the kids are engaged in "civil discourse?"....wait, I just did. BTW, kaelri and you other lefty anti-Americans out there, check out OUR Minutemen, and let us all know how many of Them wear masks (or hide their faces) like terrorists and la raza. Also, why haven't any of our peace-loving lefties offered themselves as replacement hostages for the kidnapped Israeli soldiers? Oh, yeah, maybe they remember what happened to the latest "friend" of the "religion of peace" Jill Carroll. What marks the liberals most, hypocrisy, or cowardice? Bring it on, boys and girls, and invite ALL the anti-terrorist IMAMS to help you.....oops, no help for you......sheesh.

Anonymous said...

Our propagating Cowards and Queers gives them all the more motivation.

MAX Redline said...

Well, that last photo pretty well sums it up.

Near as I can tell, Islam is the Religion of Pieces.

Bruce said...

Until i hear some of the Muslim leaders renounce this madness or see some of the American born Muslims renounce this i will firmly believe that all Muslims, here or abroad, are a perfect example of a reason that genocide should be brought back as an option to solve all this.

Anonymous said...

It is not a Muslims place to judge another Muslim on such matters as their view of the Koran as that is God's work.

Daniel said...

It's ok, I'll judge them: they are crazies who need to be killed before they kill us!

BEAR said...

Hey, lefty cowards, jihad got your tongues? Maybe you could accuse the "worldwide zionist conspiracy" of photo-shopping the cute little tykes? Kaelri, you believe in talking things out.....why don't you invite these playful pups into your home as exchange students? Let us know if you and your neighbors live through the night, will ya? Didn't think so.

Bruce said...

I'm not asking them to judge their fellow Muslims...I'm just asking them to speak out and renounce the violence. BUT OF COURSE....even asking Muslims to do anything to help is not the ideaology of all you apologistic anti-semitic bastards. I'll bet you're just hoping the Hezbollah knock off Isreal you anti-semite. You're talking to a Jew, so don't expect any sympathy or kindness coming in your direction because none will be forthcoming. Go tonite to your pig-filled Mosque in Portland, and spill your guts to those scum. An eye for an eye.....DEATH TO RADICAL MUSLIMS!!!! As the quote from the Airborne goes..."KILL EM' ALL, LET GOD SORT THEM OUT". Screw Allah!!!!

BEAR said...

hey, anon 8:23, if what you say is true, how come sunnis and shiites spend so much time killing each other? Apparently, you islamo-fascists can do anything you want using the cheap and amoral excuse you gave. No wonder the cowardly imams won't oppose genocide, butchery, baby-killing, or other muslim hobbies. You idiots don't think it's wrong! That makes it understandable for you to accuse those who prosecute terrorists of racism and religious persecution. Thanx for the insight, anon. You have described the modus and cultural identity of an irresponsible, psychotic cult. No surprise, there.

mike said...

That's about as bad as American gang members dressing their infants in all red or blue.

MAX Redline said...

if what you say is true, how come sunnis and shiites spend so much time killing each other?

Excellent point, Bear! I was thinking much the same.

Anonymous said...

we (all peoples) must police owr own.crime stops here!! ohh thats right we cant even punish car theives. lets start by inforcing the laws here and work our way up to the harder stuff.

Anonymous said...

if they are so proud, why do they wear masks?

Love said...

The Temple of Love - The World Peace Religion is the solution to the Middle East crisis. http://www.thetempleoflove.com/

Scottiebill said...

Max, When you said that Islam is the "Religion of Pieces" you must be referring to the peices of those people their "Martyrs" have blown up.

One has to wonder when kaelri and the other AmINOs, and this includes Cindy Sheehan and the AmINO Civil Liberties Union, are going to be fitted for their bomb harnesses.

One other thing: When the girl shown in the third picture blows herself up, will the 72 virgins she will be "rewarded" be boys or girls?

Anonymous said...

Islam sucks ass!

Kaelri said...

Sorry for my absence the last couple days. I'm afraid that I do, as it turns out, have something of a life beyond explaining myself to Oregonian conservatives who think I'm unAmerican... 'tis, at times, an exhausting task. I noticed, in particular, that my comments about the Iraq War provoked some... opinions.

But.

First off, I should inform you of something: when liberal blogs link to Little Green Footballs, they don't even bother with an explanation of the LGF post's significance; they can assume that their readers will expect to see something contemptuous. I'm mentioning this just to advise you that such sites, even when they're sincere and accurate, will not help you convince the people you need to.

Now then.

- "Kaelri, you believe in talking things out.....why don't you invite these playful pups into your home as exchange students?"

Believe it or not, Bear, I would be delighted to talk to one of these children alone. They're being taught that the United States is the Great Satan that wants to destroy them and their way of life, and I would love nothing more than to show them that they have been taught myths and lies. Don't you think they'd be a bit less inclined to murder Americans if they knew that only 1 in 3 of them actually support the President responsible for the horrors that they have seen?

There is not the slightest doubt that the radical manifestation of Islam - the one that is decidedly not a religion of peace - is large and growing. Terrorism is growing. But I will trust that everyone here understands that it is a perversion of the intended faith. The advocation of holy war and suicide cannot possibly be sustained by religious conviction alone; the tangible social and political conditions must exist to make it plausible. By removing those conditions, we can allow the religion to die. But as long as they exist, in that culture and its history, the religion will remain a powerful instrument of pathos to continue pouring oil into the lamps.

On to a few other random points that have been made:

- "why haven't any of our peace-loving lefties offered themselves as replacement hostages for the kidnapped Israeli soldiers?"

I have not offered myself as a replacement for the kidnapped Israeli for two reasons. One, I can help change the world in other, better ways. Two, I myself am not an Israeli, and since I would also be a voluntary hostage, I would not be very good political currency for Palestinian nationalists.

- "i will firmly believe that all Muslims, here or abroad, are a perfect example of a reason that genocide should be brought back as an option to solve all this."

I am not convinced that you believe this, Bruce. Do you really think that the slaughtering of one billion human beings will solve more problems than it creates?

Shaky Louie said...

Daniel,
LGF is a GREAT site for you to call attention to!
I read you and LGF regularly.
IMHO it is the best site on the web for keeping up with what's going on in Israel and "Palestine". Not to mention all the other nutballers in the Middle East.

And, if anyone wants to register, it is best done on weekends when the owner opens up registration (watch the box on left side of page).

BEAR said...

Well, kaelri, that about takes the cake.....if you think that by agreeing with fanatics (re "it's Bush's fault") they will embrace you Bush-haters and anti-Americans, and refrain from butchering non-muslims, you are crazy. Ask an imam if you will be allowed to wear clothing of the non-bhurka type, or if women will be allowed into schools, or if women will be anything other than property under sharia. You are such an idiot. Thanx for the laughs, though.

Kaelri said...

Ah, you misunderstand, I think. It's not the fanatic authorities with whom I want to speak; it's the next generation that they're trying to influence. I want to compete with the madrasahs. I want to show them that we're not what their culture of terrorism teaches them that we are. And my opposition to the President is a factor for two reasons: first, it is proof that the President's philosophy and policy does not represent the population of the country he leads; second, that philosophy and policy is part of the reason that the "war" will be carried on by that next generation unless we do something about it. (Though precedent would indicate that it's already too late for most of them.)

So yes, I'd like to speak to the children.

I would also be very interested to hear how you've come to classify me as "un-American" and a "Bush-hater." I'm failing to recall when and how I've given you such ideas.

Bobkatt said...

Bear, I may be out of line here but I don't see the point in personally attacking Kaelri on points he hasn't made yet. While I usually agree with your positions and disagree with Kaelri, I appreciate the intellectual challenge that he usually presents. I come to this blog to challenge my own conservative perspective but what's the point if it turns into nothing more than a pissing contest?

BEAR said...

bobkatt, keep learning. Socialists don't understand dhimmitude, and that they are not immune. As kaelri and others have made quite explicite, they believe that non-muslims can negotiate with terrorists. Try to get an imam to even admit that murdering children is wrong. Try to get a socialist to admit that we have a twice-elected president. Socialists believe that America is an evil influence, and that self-defense will only anger those who are trying to kill us. Khrushev claimed publicly that "We will bury you," and, to this day, all we hear from the idiot left is a call for patriots to be civil. Chamberlain was civil to Hitler. Truman was civil to Mao. Roosevelt was civil to Stalin. Clinton was civil to Kim Jong Il. Carter was civil to Khomeini.

Notice, bobkatt, that questions from patriots are never actually answered by the socialists on this blog. They change the subject, or quibble about form. Questions about Ward Churchill, Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry, and the vicious anti-American nonsense they spout are ignored in favor of always bashing our institutions, our origins, our purpose, and our President. The socialists call us racist, homophobic, evil, and religious zealots, ad nauseum, and then demand "civility." Ask the lefties the whereabouts and thoughts of Jill Carroll....silence. Ask the lefties for a plan to stop terrorism....you get a list of how wrong this nation is, and a bunch of "should haves," but no plan. Ask the socialists and imams for the condemnation of murdering civilians....you get a list of how innocent people deserve to die in horrible ways (and, oh yeah, it's Bush's fault.) We don't burn flags, or wear che t-shirts, but we must "be civil." The ignoble and intellectually bankrupt left cannot win in the arena of ideas, so violence is their only political communication, and they have the nerve to insist that we refrain from defending ourselves from governments and fanatics who are trying to kill us. People who excuse violence as a political tool, while condemning national defense are idiots. Imams call us racist, but won't confront their anti-semitism. Imams call us religious bigots while condemning infidels (that's you kaelri) to death or slavery. No answer from the left, ever. The statements that kaelri, the msm, Democrats, and other America-haters make on a daily basis are without merit. I have no patience with that crowd. They put their own will to power above the welfare of our nation, and ignore reality in favor of demonstrably failed philosophies. They will never concede a point, answer a question, or stay on the subject. The hypocrisy from these stupid sophists is on display everywhere. I will never be sensitive to the emotional plight of a sworn enemy. They can always grow up and eschew their foolishness. The lefties are not on this blog to discuss, or to learn, or to change. They are here to change you. I'm not here to change them. I'm here to oppose them and their anti-American philosophy.

MAX Redline said...

Max, When you said that Islam is the "Religion of Pieces" you must be referring to the peices of those people their "Martyrs" have blown up.

One other thing: When the girl shown in the third picture blows herself up, will the 72 virgins she will be "rewarded" be boys or girls?


Scottiebill -

That is precisely why I refer to them as "The Religion of Pieces".
And the girl won't get any virgins. She gets a burqua.

MAX Redline said...

Don't you think they'd be a bit less inclined to murder Americans if they knew that only 1 in 3 of them actually support the President responsible for the horrors that they have seen?

Actually, Kaelri, your numbers are a bit off. As near as I can tell, nearly all of the American Media and the Leftists support President Saddam Hussein.

There is not the slightest doubt that the radical manifestation of Islam - the one that is decidedly not a religion of peace - is large and growing. Terrorism is growing. But I will trust that everyone here understands that it is a perversion of the intended faith. The advocation of holy war and suicide cannot possibly be sustained by religious conviction alone; the tangible social and political conditions must exist to make it plausible. By removing those conditions, we can allow the religion to die.

Unfortunately, the analysis is wrong. You're looking at this from the perspective of a 21st-century Westerner. They're looking at it from the perspective of a 3rd-century tribe.

As you might expect, there has been considerable divergence in perspective over time; see

http://faculty.washington.edu/ el...ble_Savage.html

for further information on the myth of the "Noble Savage".

This is what we are seeing today. They don't want their tribes to come out of the 3rd century mindset, and they will be relentlessly efficient in killing every man, woman, and child not of their tribes that they can find.

MAX Redline said...

The lefties are not on this blog to discuss, or to learn, or to change. They are here to change you. I'm not here to change them. I'm here to oppose them and their anti-American philosophy.

Bear,

I disagree. Many of the Lefties - like Dishonest Abe, and Dodgey Roger - aren't here to discuss; they run through and snipe.

Kaelri, by contrast, does have the guts to come into a conservative environment and at least attempt to discuss things. Granted, the discussion may turn to gobbledygook at times, but this demonstrates, nonetheless, a degree of courage and conviction that most Leftists are simply unwilling to deal with.

I also take into consideration the fact that this is a high-school student. And a gutsy one.

Let's face facts: students are going to be Left-oriented; primarily because the teachers that our school boards hire are Leftist. As well, it is generally recognized that students will test the boundaries of mainstream thought. This is normal - and virtually required, given the milleu in which they find themselves immersed.

Your job - and mine - is to provide alternative education for people such as Kaelri, who have not had their desire to learn extinguished by an autocratic "educational system". Yet.

Your job - and mine - is to keep that spark alive.

Anonymous said...

Christianity reports to be a religion of peace too, but we have Pat Robertson and other top Christians calling for assasinations and "holy war". What gives?

Anonymous said...

Poll

Is Christianity a Religion of Peace?

In theory, yes, but in practice it can be as violent as it is peaceful.(92) 48%

Both in theory and in practice, Christianity is peaceful. The only violence comes from a few bad eggs who ignore Christianity's teachings.(31) 16%

Both in theory and in practice, Christianity is both violent and peaceful - neither dominates the other.(58) 30%

I don't know. (3) 1%

I don't care. (5) 2%

Total Votes: 189

Scottiebill said...

Bear809, No one could have said it better. But you are preaching to the choir. We conservative Americans are with you in this. But the AmINOs like kaelri, roger dodger, and the ultra-liberal anonymous will never understand what you are saying or why you are saying it.

One other thing: I just read on NewsMax.com that the AmINO Civil Liberties Union (aka the al Qaeda Civil Liberties Union) is protesting and has filed suit in a town in Michigan for wanting to put up signs in those business that are using more than one language in their signage. These people are really going off the edge here, not that they haven't already.

Kaelri said...

- "The ignoble and intellectually bankrupt left cannot win in the arena of ideas, so violence is their only political communication..."

Heh... is that really what you see in my writings? A void of thought, principle and articulation? Is violence my "political communication?"

I think I'm one of the least violent people here. I don't understand the black-and-white confrontation that you epitomize. You and I are on opposite sides of the spectrum, yes, but I don't consider you un-American. I do think some of your ideas are dangerous, just as you think the same of mine, but I don't think your intent is evil. I think you believe in what you say, mostly, and love your country and what it stands for. I wish I could help you understand that the people you call "leftists", "liberals" and "socialists" are working for exactly the same motivation.

I don't understand why you would rather condemn us than change our minds. You clearly harbor dearly-valued principles, and if you can combine your passion with well-written logic, you may just win some people over. But to do that, you have to understand that we're not your enemies. The things that unite us are greater than the things that divide us. You are free to think of John Kerry as a "vicious anti-American", but how do you reconcile this with the fact that one half of the country wanted him to be their President? Has he deceived us, brainwashed us? Or does one half of America actually want to see America fail and fall? Both of those possibilities seem unlikely.

"The socialists call us racist, homophobic, evil, and religious zealots." I have not once accused you of being any of these - I guarantee you.

"They will never concede a point, answer a question, or stay on the subject." I have worked very hard to do all of these things; please cite a post in which I have not done so, and I will amend the record. And, if you request it, I will provide a line-by-line response to your claims here.

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- "Actually, Kaelri, your numbers are a bit off. As near as I can tell, nearly all of the American Media and the Leftists support President Saddam Hussein."

This is another sort of statement of which I don't really comprehend the point. You knew, I assume, that I was referring to the President's approval ratings. (In fact, I was being generous; rather than one full third of the population, the number stands, I believe, in the mid-20s.) I'm not exactly sure whether you were trying to make a judgment or a joke, or something in between. But the ideas of both a united American media and any pointed number of Americans actually approving of and defending Saddam Hussein have a kind of absurdity and futility that doesn't really impress anyone.

- "Unfortunately, the analysis is wrong. You're looking at this from the perspective of a 21st-century Westerner. They're looking at it from the perspective of a 3rd-century tribe."

I wouldn't matter if I were taking the perspective of a Sumerian scribe. Every event and condition in human history has fundamentally political, social and economic causes. When philosophy and theology can be used to further a tangible goal, they're milked for all they're worth; when they can't, they're ignored. They're augmentations. It has always been like that. It is thus no coincidence that true, transcendent ideological devotion nurtures epiphany and revolution. But that's not what this War on Terror truly is. We're not in this for God and neither are they.

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Max, I appreciate your compliments and defense, but I think you still have some misconceptions.

- "...a degree of courage and conviction that most Leftists are simply unwilling to deal with."

By their very nature, courage and conviction can't be quantified. So I can't give you any facts and statistics to prove that I am far from a minority. All I can do is encourage you to listen, just a bit, to the voices which I count as my strongest influences. Not little names, either. Bob Harris. Tom Tomorrow. Josh Marshall. And yes, indeed, many of the contributors to the Daily Kos. Call them stupid, call them lunatics - I know most of you think of Kos the way I think of Little Green Footballs - but these people have deep, mature conviction that dwarfs mine.

- "Let's face facts: students are going to be Left-oriented; primarily because the teachers that our school boards hire are Leftist."

This is another possibility that I can't effectively refute. It may be true for many of my peers. But it's not for me. I dearly wish my school had some place for political discourse, but there's really no context for it. Even my U.S. History teacher was remarkably centrist, and they all take great efforts to keep their own views away from the process of education. My activism has emerged almost entirely from my own pursuit of knowledge.

- "Your job - and mine - is to provide alternative education for people such as Kaelri, who have not had their desire to learn extinguished by an autocratic 'educational system'. Yet."

Heh... you underestimate me. A lot.

MAX Redline said...

"Actually, Kaelri, your numbers are a bit off. As near as I can tell, nearly all of the American Media and the Leftists support President Saddam Hussein."

This is another sort of statement of which I don't really comprehend the point. You knew, I assume, that I was referring to the President's approval ratings. (In fact, I was being generous; rather than one full third of the population, the number stands, I believe, in the mid-20s.) I'm not exactly sure whether you were trying to make a judgment or a joke, or something in between. But the ideas of both a united American media and any pointed number of Americans actually approving of and defending Saddam Hussein have a kind of absurdity and futility that doesn't really impress anyone.


Take it however you wish.

Your exact line was: Don't you think they'd be a bit less inclined to murder Americans if they knew that only 1 in 3 of them actually support the President responsible for the horrors that they have seen?

I submit that most of the horrors that they have seen came from President Saddam Hussein. And last I checked, Bush's numbers were 42-44%.

In point of fact, as some 78% of MSM "journalists" are registered Democrats, there exists strong evidence for a united media and a strongly leftist agenda; your protestations regarding "absurdity" have no merit.

I wouldn't matter if I were taking the perspective of a Sumerian scribe. Every event and condition in human history has fundamentally political, social and economic causes. When philosophy and theology can be used to further a tangible goal, they're milked for all they're worth; when they can't, they're ignored. They're augmentations. It has always been like that. It is thus no coincidence that true, transcendent ideological devotion nurtures epiphany and revolution. But that's not what this War on Terror truly is. We're not in this for God and neither are they.

Now this is truly spooky. I was just listening to Gorbachev blather on. 75 now and senile. He actually had the audacity to tell the West that the only way to fight terrorism is through fighting poverty.

This sounds strangely like your commentary. Makes me wonder if he's "channeling" you.

My thoughts: Gorby, call me when you recover from your astounding victories in Chechnya. How many children did you lose when they attacked a school a couple of years ago? Wasn't it over 300?

Is that country poverty-ridden? I think not.

Ever hear of a poverty-stricken family going by the name of "bin Laden"?

The fact is that the most blood-thirsty and ruthless terrorists presently walking the planet share two characteristics:

1) They were born to privilige; the offspring of wealth families.

2) They are "devout" Muslims.

You don't end terrorism by fighting poverty. You end it by killing terrorists.


Max, I appreciate your compliments and defense, but I think you still have some misconceptions.


Don't take yourself too seriously, kid. I'm not being complimentary.

I am noting, however, that you at least come in with more or less rational arguments - unlike the folks who dash in and yell "Nativists! We'll get ya!" and then dash out again.

You don't engage in that bs, which is why I credit you with having guts (if not brains), and why I encourage everyone to give your views a fair hearing.

The above line regarding brains is not intended as a slam regarding your intellect; merely a nod to neurobiology. Your brain is still trying to grow and make connections. It's normal. Hell, you body's still trying to play catch up.

Now, there are three potential explanations for your present line of thought, but you have already eliminated one of them.

You might actually be thinking on your own (albeit with "help" from the likes of Kos). That would indicate that you are attending a private school, but you long ago stated that you receive public "education".

You might be attending a public school outside of Oregon.

Most likely, you've simply been so thoroughly indoctrinated that you've not yet had time to figure out what has been done.

I work with "educators" every day, which is why I don't much trust them. Give a good one ten minutes in a closed room with you, and you will arrive at a "concensus" - even though it opposes all of your fundamental beliefs.

Kaelri said...

- "I submit that most of the horrors that they have seen came from President Saddam Hussein. And last I checked, Bush's numbers were 42-44%."

I concede a bit of a rise in the numbers, though my searching yielded mostly 30s. Depends on the sources, as ever.

But. However confident you may have felt in your analysis - enough, apparently, to render a humorism that those of us who disagree found a bit arrogant - I don't think so. Under Saddam Hussein, there was poverty, genocidal massacres, and torture, but - with all due contempt for the nature of it - there was order, and peace. Living in a city on which bombs are falling tends to be a bit of a formative experience, as does seeing your fathers and brothers shot by U.S. checkpoint guards. Yes, the vast majority of our soldiers are honorable and well-intentioned. And, accordingly, the majority of the general population is probably grateful for what we've done for them. But the minority is still hundreds of thousands of people. Not that it matters. You know how many it takes? Nineteen.

- "In point of fact, as some 78% of MSM "journalists" are registered Democrats, there exists strong evidence for a united media and a strongly leftist agenda; your protestations regarding "absurdity" have no merit."

My protestations are based on the fact that things would be a lot better at the moment if the "MSM" didn't have a stupid and facetious idea of "fair and balanced", combined with a need to simply make as much money as possible - they are, after all, major corporations - that prevents a gigantic potential amount of real journalism from getting done. But. If you have a source for that 78%, I'd be interested to see it.

- "Is that country poverty-ridden? I think not."

...excuse me?

- "1) They were born to privilige; the offspring of wealth families."

The leaders, yes. They're the ones who can afford to consider theirs an ideological plight. (Although I have some doubts that bin Laden is living in the height of comfort as we speak.) But where do the active operatives - the "front liners," if we really must resort to military terminology - come from? It's not whole wealthy families that devote themselves to missions of martyrdom. (Which is why, obviously, you'll never see Osama himself strap a bomb to his chest.) It's kids off the street, who've seen the enemy against which they fight. It's the kids who realized that just throwing rocks at Israeli soldiers wasn't going to meet the mark. And it is, in fact, kids living in poverty. Particularly for Palestinian suicide bombers, it's a very common arrangement: for the martyrs' sacrifice, the terrorist network will support their widows and families.

- "You don't end terrorism by fighting poverty. You end it by killing terrorists."

It's that sort of thinking that makes my blood run a bit cold. But think of it like this: would you rather deal with a disease by treating the symptoms or eliminating the cause?

- "Don't take yourself too seriously, kid. I'm not being complimentary."

Well, as a matter of fact, you are. Although you've certainly threatened that perception with "kid". (What a sublimely patronizing title.) And, of course, nearly everything that followed. If I ever make a point or assertion that I fail to back up with factual logic, then you'll have a case for my potential "indoctrination". Sans that, I don't see how the validity of my contribution is distinguishable from anyone else's, and therefore consider any questioning of my background to be a waste of space here. I very much prefer to work without the burden of ethos; that's the beauty of the Internet.

Anonymous said...

"See the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this (expletive) and it's over," Bush told Blair as he chewed on a buttered roll.


We'd all be better off if he was like this all the time!

fish_on said...

Arab Majority May Not Stay Forever Silent

http://www.nysun.com/article/36110

Anonymous said...

Clinton says he would have died for Israel

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=2002%5C08%5C04%5Cstory_4-8-2002_pg1_6

By Khalid Hasan


WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to “grab a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die.”

“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die,” Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish charity Monday.
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"Ah huh huh huh...yeah...right after i'm done with...!@#$%^&*! hey...go easy now..."

KS said...

America should stay out of this and let Israel do what they have to. Bush is doing the right thing here as long as he does not make an attempt to interfere. Hezzbollah cuts to the roots of Iran - their terrorist army, along with Hamas.

If the Hebollzah big wigs are hiding out in the caves in Lebanon near the Syrian border - as Debka claimed today, then the Israelis need to bomb all of the possible caves for hiding and cause them to cave in like the coal mines and suffocate those ba*ta*ds.

KS said...

should be---If the Hezzbollah big wigs are hiding out in the caves in Lebanon near the Syrian border - as Debka claimed today, My bad.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that Daniel is being held hostage in Lebanon, Oregon?

The hostage takers Chebby Van broke down.

R Huse said...

- "You don't end terrorism by fighting poverty. You end it by killing terrorists."

Brilliant concept. Why is this so hard to understand?

In our world it is becoming increasingly difficult to see Islamic terrorism as the actions of a few extremists. True extremists are condemned by their peers, these terrorists seldom are. This is why we begin to see the terrorist as mainstream. A representative of the Islamic world, which doesn’t condemn his actions.

When the towers came down, the Palestinians lined up in the streets and cheered. When terrorists recently kidnapped Israeli soldiers, how strongly were the actions condemned in the Arab world?

Blame it on poverty? Don’t be a fool. Poverty breeds discontent, nothing more. Excusing and tacitly condoning violence because someone is poor has been the lefts mantra since the dawn of time. We’ve been fighting the “War on poverty” since 1965, is the left ready to declare it a failure after 40 years? They seem ready to in Iraq after more success in one-tenth the time.

Just find a solution to poverty and you will end the terrorism? Yeah, right, well, until we find the magic wand that makes everyone rich and pretty and really really Wuuuuv each other a whole big bunch, Ill settle for killing the terrorists. When the magic solution to poverty is finally found though I would like it with a side order of anti gravitation pills, super hard 12-inch pills and X-ray vision.