A tale of two headlines today:
Poll: Governor Slightly Ahead in Oregon
(Forbes)
Winds blow in Kulongoski's favor
(The Fishwrapper)
One headline tells the story. One headline reveals that someone was outside protesting capitialism during journalism class...
The first line (on the Google news search) is also an editorial:
"Democratic Gov. Ted Kulongoski, apparently benefiting from an angry voter mood toward President Bush and the Republican Party, now ..."
I guess this is where I could write "the author of this article, apparently suffering from a mental illness, is..."
I guess they do back up their statement with one piece of "evidence"... they interview a reporter who hates Bush.
96 comments:
LOOK OUT OREGON!!! Here they come!!
Thanks to Gov. Ted Kulongoski's stupidity!
Need a drivers licese and don't have the required "papers"? go to Oregon
by Associated Press Wednesday, Nov. 01, 2006 at 9:19 AM
If you don't have a drivers license because you don't have a birth certificate or other papers you should go to Oregon and get one while you still can. They may change the law next year. Currently Oregon is one of a handful of states that does not require proof of citizenship or legal residency for a license.
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/11/185994.php
Gee, another piece of evidence just may be the Hibbits poll that has Saxton trailing.
Did you see these questions in the Statesman Journal on 13 October 2006 Web site? My personal answers to the questions are in bold.
84. For Saxton: Why are you trying to stop giving drivers license to illegal Mexicans. We are just trying to work and have a decent life. Who’s going to work your fields? Legal United States citizens.
103. The Oregon Department of Forestry (ODF) currently employs independent contractors to fight forest fires here in the State of Oregon. According ODF’s very own leadership, they say they are aware that independent contractor are employing illegal aliens to fight forest fires in Oregon. What would you do as governor of the State of Oregon to make sure that jobs fighting forest fires went only to legal Oregon residents? Require firefighting agencies to fill out and submit the INS Form I-9. If you are an illeagl immigrant, you will be reported to the Immigrations Customs and Enforcement (ICE).
104. What do you think about our/the immigrant situation right now? If you mean illegal immigration, that problem is out of control to the extent we are having problems trying to accomodate the legal immigrants as it does place a burden on the legal citizen taxpaers and their resources and services. Legal immigrants are welcomed, illegal immigrants are not.
105. For Saxton: What are you going to do to help the Hispanic community if you are elected? I heard on the radio that you are going to take licenses from illegal immigrants. Hispanics are a big part of our community, and I don’t think they should be singled out. Illegal immigrant is anyone from a foreign nation who is inside the borders of our nation unlawfully, that is entering the United States without permission, as one would enter you home without permission. Race or ethnic background isn't the issue, it is the proof of documentation of legal status that is the issue. However people who do not speak english fluently are targeted because the English language is the primary language of the United States, and non-english speaking people are a clue that they are foreigners.
Hey Bjdorr,
Could you please come up to Washington State and run for Gov in two years. I have a funny feeling that if Oregon manages to get tough on illegal aliens they are just going to flock up here. We have enough already and a Gov that refuses to address that issue. She is too busy raising our taxes.
"84. For Saxton: Why are you trying to stop giving drivers license to illegal Mexicans. We are just trying to work and have a decent life. Who’s going to work your fields? Legal United States citizens."
Bjdorr-
Landscape management ran an article in which they discussed why native-born workers will not do the jobs that immigrants are doing.
Back in 1992 I tried to apply for summer work at a nursery in Boring, but I was told by the foreman or management the position open was reserved for Hispanics. I later ended up doing summer work as housekeeping at a hotel (later becoming night auditor). I wan't fully aware of the hiring laws back then in my high school days. Gotta start somewhere.
brayn saxton, you mean why farmers won't hire legal workers, since illegal ones are cheaper? They'll do the work, just not for under minimum wage.
Anon-11:04, that story also quotes a Democrat saying that Illegal Aliens SHOULD get a special License and Rino Gillman apologising for bringing it up in the last session.
PEOPLE-There will be a huge Legislative push by Democrats to invent a Special License for Illegal Aliens (another reason for them to raise Taxes so we can pay for this special service). Tennessee tried this and after 50,000 Licenses were sold they STOPPED this. Organized Crime from other states, bringing them in for Photo Id, was the reason.
Are you ready for a fight, 5 years after 9-11-01, for SECURE ID's?
I AM!
Anon 4:31-
You should consider the employers who hire under the law H-2B. They are required by law to look for native-born workers, provide substantial evidence to the government that they've attempted to hire native born workers, and then are allowed to hire immigrant workers. There have been many programs in the past that try to connect unemployed native-born workers with low skilled employers to remidy the need for migrant workers, but have been forced to stop because of lack of interest among native-born workers. They usually receive a low turnout, and the native-born workers they do receive usually work for two or three days before quitting. The reason for this is because of a lack of potential advancement these jobs have, which is not a problem for migrant workers because their expectation of life and educational background is limited.
Bryan, So you haven't read about all the FRAUD with the Hb Work Visa programs I guess?
Besides Illegal aliens being treated like dirt, because they know if fired they have to leave, but also NOT ONE Employer has every really had to prove that they tried to hire an American (or in 1 case, employer ran a $5 ad for one day and that counts).
Why do you trust that the Gov't is checking anything?
They just want to spend every dime they take from us so they can say they need more, silly boy.
Do they check Licenses, Voter cards, applicants for benefits, status before releasing from the Hospital? no no no no.
They would have to embarrass themselves (Hello Bradbury) and not get more funding, every year.
New Mexico is a recent example where the GOP is suing the State because they are allowing Illegals to Vote and the State has a list and won't turn it over for inspection.
If Ted wins, we should all demand that all Votes be checked to make sure all votes were by Citizens only.
Remember earlier this year when a Hispanic Woman was running for office in California and she said "You don't need any papers to vote"?
She lost for speaking the truth, other politicans won't tell the truth.
That would be Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered these words,“You don't need papers for voting.” She said yesterday she simply misspoke.
When can we talk about Haggard the meth addicted male prostitute loving evangelical minister?
Oh! And when do we get to talk about the Army Times calling for Rumsfeld's resignation?
Signed,
Waiting
Anon 7:00 pm-
What's your source? How much of this are you making up? How would you fill the labor gaps that guest workers and undocumented workers are filling?
Bryan, I think the old canard that there are jobs that Americans won't do is tired. It is used by the ones that don't value hard manual labor or maybe never have had to do any. I picked beans in the summer to buy school clothes. I had a paper route for 4 years as a teenager in order to have spending money. I never got an allowance for doing the chores I could do. It was expected as a part of my family. I worked in a sawmill for three years. I have always mowed my own lawn and washed my own car. I have dug sewer lines and replaced roofs and split a lot of firewood. I worked 30 years in the automotive parts business until I was downsized. Now I'm a custodian and I do landscaping on the weekends to pay bills. I'm not trying to make any point except that I don't know of any job that an American won't do if it offers them the ability to support their family. And if all the real costs were factored into the equation concerning cheap labor we would really see the costs are unsustainable.
The sad part is that the whole open borders agenda has nothing to do with providing cheap labor or helping immigrants but all about removing our border and our sovereignty. Globalist versus the rest of us. Take a number.
bryan saxton: It may be that there are certain businesses which are simply not viable in Oregon today unless the wages are at some low enough level. If someone's business is not viable without illegals, then he made a bad business decision, didn't he? Salem will survive the loss of a landscaping business, but it won't survive becoming North Tijuana. As Thomas Sowell has pointed out, the employment of Latinos has a lot more to do with shifting costs onto the Anglos than it does with lowering the cost of labor overall. What's really going on is a battle for turf. The Latinos mean to take our country from us. Are you going to let them?
Bobkatt, it's not about the jobs that illegal immigrants will do that Americans won't do. It's more like the jobs illegal immigrants will do that Americans aren't supposed to do. Take my example in a previous post in this thread of what happened in 1992 when I tried to apply for a summer job in Boring. My experience was an example of a company with the case of exploitation of cheap labor.
There's one other point I would like to make. As for day-laborer, one point I made to Rick Hickey on Monday in Salem, was if any of these day-laborers have background checks, especially those with dangerous offenses such as rape and child sex offenses. Do you want a registered sex offender working in your family's yard or residence?
dchamil said it best... I'm ready to fight for that turf.
Bjdorr- And as we just read in NJ, two Day Laborers, Illegally here from Mexico, beat a man to Death.
Does this mean all Ilegall Aliens are Killers? Of course not. But bad guys love the hidden cash flow provided via a Day Labor site. An insecure border and Oregon's attractiveness to those without "papers" only worsens the situation.
Thank you again to everyone for coming Monday. The phone calls & e-mails and donations since, has been wonderful.
Jim Gilchrist-Minuteman Co-Founder, coming to Oregon in Feb.
Will the crazies shut down this meeting?
"Protesting capitalism while in journalism class." A future Portland Mercury writer, maybe?
Rick, that is true that not all illegal immigrants commit crimes other than unlawfulling entering and being present in the United States illegally. Thank you for adding one more dangerous example of hiring day laborers.
"I guess they do back up their statement with one piece of "evidence"... they interview a reporter who hates Bush."
This made me laugh pretty hard. I think the "reporter" that Daniel was referring to is a court reporter, who's job is to transcribe verbatum court hearings. Reporter indeed...
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