I'm not a sore loser here. If you look at my last couple posts I am moving forward, looking at the positive and wanting to focus on what I (and people of a similar mindset) can do to keep this country and American families strong.
However I'm thouroughly enjoying the "ha ha" and "suck it" comments from giddy liberals.
I suppose that I could do what liberals did in 2004 and go put on a skirt, cry to my shrink and threaten to leave the country. But I'm not a whiny girl.
And the claim that this is a rejection of "conservative" (read: mainstream) values is absurd. A democrat got elected and gay marriage got rejected in several states.
As for the issue of immigration, Heath Shuler (D), who was just elected to the House, has this to say:
“Illegal immigration costs American taxpayers approximately $70 billion a year in financial assistance for welfare benefits, health care, education and domestic crime-fighting... I do not support granting amnesty to people who have broken the law.”
So don't assume that because someone has a (D) next to their name that they march in step with MoveOn.org.
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"So don't assume that because someone has a (D) next to their name that they march in step with MoveOn.org."
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
"So don't assume that because someone has a (D) next to their name that they march in step with MoveOn.org."
Quite right. It doesn't surprise me, given the candidates Rahm Emanuel helped rustle up this election cycle.
You're actually quite full of shit, Daniel. Your talk about moving on and not being a sore loser implies that you engage in non-divisive politics and are primarily concerned with the issues, but in reading your posts, it seems that about all you can do is lodge empty personal attacks against liberals. Is it possible that you have any of your own ideas, or do you merely enjoy parroting the empty rhetoric of Ann Coulter and Lars Larson?
Once the new congress actually does something about immigration (because the Republican controlled house, senate and white house couldn't) what are you going to do with your free time? What will become of the tip jar?
Daniel, since when did any of us say that there aren't moderate Democrats? That's exactly what we've been saying all along! So, thank you for making our point for us.
The election is a slap in the face to the very fringe of the conservative movement. America is tired of the crazies running the Republican party. You guys allowed your party to be run by a bunch of immoral right wingers and it just kicked you in the ass last night.
...and the last poster was absolutely right, you really are full of shit - all you ever do is lodge empty personal attacks.
Say, now that the Democrats won control of Congress, can we borrow their plan "B" in the event they didn't win. Their plan "B" was to "We lost, they cheated"
Yep those silly Democrats were ready to invoke the tried and true Clintonian whine if they lost. Accuse your opponent of what you're guilty of to divert attention away from the real issue...your own criminality.
Anyway, buckle up it's to get interesting now that Comrade Pelosi is speaker.
A sore loser would be damanding recounts and gathering lawyers...oh wait, that's what the Dems do!
Olbermann and Matthews were talking it up with voter fraud until today when they said that everything was completely fair. Hypocrites.
I've seen nothing but class from Rs, and what amounts to political masturbation from the Ds. I really do hope that everyone means it when they say they're going to work together.
A short, sweet piece that puts the thoughts of the younger generation into eloquent words.
There are moderate democrats, they just don't exist in Oregon, particularly Western Oregon. So you lefties can take your moderate talk and shove it up your collective asses.
The bottom line is this: the Socialists in power here (Gov., Leg., and Courts) will work hard to continue their plan of income redistribution. I pay thousands upon thousands of dollars in taxes annually, and you nutjobs refuse to do anything about the 217 fwy until the year 2084. That is just one example of how divisive this shithole is and how none of you are looking out for the everyday Joe who has to commute to work and pay the bills. The f'ing Max doesn't go everywhere, you douchebags, plus I value my life vis-a-vis crime. You guys suck.
Of course the Republicans aren't going to draw attention to their own crimes!
Sec. of Virginia State Board of Elections Finds Widespread Incidents of Voter Suppression
Threats of Incarceration, Changed Polling Locations, and Fliers to “Skip the Election.”
Over the past several days, voters throughout the Commonwealth of Virginia have filed complaints of incidents aimed at suppressing voter turn out in heavily Democratic and African American neighborhoods. Today, the Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Jean Jensen concluded that the incidents appear widespread and deliberate.
“There are now credible reports from multiple jurisdictions around the Commonwealth that establish a pattern of dirty tricks being employed to confuse and frustrate Virginia's voters from exercising their right to vote tomorrow. In addition to reports that have been received by the Democratic Party of Virginia, these local election officials have been receiving reports from concerned voters,” said Jack Young, co-chair of Promote the Vote.
Jay Myerson, General Counsel of the Democratic Party of Virginia noted the irony that our troops are fighting to create democracy in Iraq at a time when those very rights are being tested here at home. Myerson and Young urged voters to recognize that voting precincts are not changed by telephone calls and called upon the U.S. Department of Justice to vigorously investigate these matters.
Documented incidents of suppression incidents include:
1) Calls that Voting will Lead to Arrest.
Tim Daly from Clarendon got a call saying that if he votes Tuesday, he will be arrested. A recording of his voicemail can be found online at: www.webbforsenate.com/media/phone_message.wav
The transcript from his voicemail reads:
“This message is for Timothy Daly. This is the Virginia Elections Commission. We've determined you are registered in New York to vote. Therefore, you will not be allowed to cast your vote on Tuesday. If you do show up, you will be charged criminally."
Daly has been registered to vote in Virginia since 1998, and he has voted for the last several cycles with no problem. He has filed a criminal complaint with the Commonwealth’s attorney in Arlington.
“This is a clear attempt to erroneously lead voters to believe they cannot participate in the Virginia election. Nothing is further from the truth. You have the right to vote in the Virginia election as long as you are a Virginia resident, registered to vote in Virginia and have not voted in any other general election this year. We’ve seen this tactic before and it is about time the Republicans learned that it will not work,” said Jay B. Myerson, General Counsel of the Democratic Party of Virginia.
2) Widespread Calls, Allegedly from “Webb Volunteers,” Telling Voters that their Polling Location has Changed.
A couple of examples:
a. Norman Cox has been registered to vote in the same location in Arlington since 1972. Someone from a 406 number (in Montana) called to tell him that his polling place has changed. [Note: The Webb Campaign is NOT making any such phone calls.] Cox said he believed that he was being mislead and the caller hung up.
b. Peter Baumann in Cape Charles, VA (North Hampton) got a similar call from a “Webb volunteer” saying his polling location had changed. He said: No, I’m a poll worker and I know where I vote. The girl—who was calling from California—hung up.
The Secretary of the State Board of Elections Jean Jensen has logged dozens of similar calls, finding heavy trends in Accomack County (middle peninsula) and Essex County (outer peninsula) [as reported by the counties’ registrars].
3) Fliers in Buckingham County Say “SKIP THIS ELECTION” (paid for by the RNC) have caused many in the African American community to call the Board of Elections to see if the election is still on. The full tag line says: “SKIP THIS ELECTION… (and then in smaller print): Don’t Let the Tax and Spend Liberals Win.”
“Intimidation of voters has no place in this or any election. The blatant attempts by Republicans to suppress the African American vote by saying: ‘SKIP THIS ELECTION’ is contrary to the democratic principles that govern our Commonwealth and we hope the world,” said Jack Young, the co-chair of Virginia Promote the Vote and a national voting rights expert.
4) Voter Machine Problems.
a. On many ballots in heavily Democratic neighborhoods, Jim’s name is cut off. The ballots say: “James H. (Jim)” with no Webb.
b. New reports that ballots in Essex County have Jim’s name split on 2 pages. The “James H (Jim)” on one page, “Webb” on the next.
c. Reports of voting machines in Isle of White that do not provide a clear image of the ballot, making voting a challenge.
Jay Myerson said “these are the reasons why the Democratic Party of Virginia since Mark Warner’s gubernatorial campaign has urged all voters to participate in the electoral process.” Myerson, as co-chair of the Virginia Promote the Vote, reiterated Virginia Promote the Vote’s “guarantee to the voters of Virginia: Your Right to Vote. We Guarantee It.”
"...plus I value my life vis-a-vis crime."
this doesn't even make any sense you dipshit.
ah, brilliant retort. someone expresses concern for personal safety because of crime and ineffectual police power, and you call him an incoherent dipshit. ah, the power and beauty of intellectual debate in the arena of ideas...
anon 10:22 -
You conveniently forget that our neighbor to the north (Washington State) has an illegitimately elected Democrat governor.
haha! Wow you guys sure are a bunch of sore losers.
Admit defeat already! Allen just did.
Now this country can finally get down to business!
Roger Doger said...
"I am just happy that President Bush will be cooperating with the Democratic House Majority on passing Comprehensive Immigration Reform. See ya NoSensinbrenner In the words of Daniel, Ha ha, suck it!"
You're a moron Roger Doger. If they sign into law Bush's Guest Worker/Amnesty Program the Demoncrats will surely loose in 2008. Evan Nancy Pelosi isn't that stupid. Are you?
I can see this is going to be tuff ... and personally, I'd bet against it. But, if any of you are serious about Immigration Reform / Enforcement you're gonna have to get off the Democrat-bashing and continue to "work the crowd."
Americans want our laws enforced; those laws are already on the books, they need reminded. This political upset was about a far-right president and his disregard for the so-called, "muscular middle" of America. America is ready to act on Illegal Immigration and curb the legal numbers, this has to be pressed -- not idiosyncratic attacks on pet politicians.
Keep up your protests! Keep this in America's / Oregon's face! Tuesdays victories were impressive, but tentative. Americans know this illegal invasion wasn't dealt with, but not "why." You remain poised to pressure the new majority -- I suggest 'we' do just that. Face it, an incomplete 'wall' would never work, hell, they were coming ashore at the Oregon coast 20 years ago.
The Dems. are willing to do what the Repubs. wouldn't - go after the Employers. As (your) Lars said: "Dry up the cow!" That's the way to stop this, no deporting necessary - no jobs - no illegal workers. Don't give up, just change course.
"That's the way to stop this, no deporting necessary - no jobs - no illegal workers."
No more US being on top of the world economy.
Ha Ha.... ya right bryan saxton their disapearance is really going to effect our economy... give us a break.
Drying up the jobs for illegals is a great idea, but we need deportation also. After about 500,000 Mexican's deported they'll get the hint and start self-deporting all on their own.
Bush's Comprehensive Imigration Package will be signed into law very quickly. You anti-immigrant pricks don't even register anymore--your insignificant--the American people agree.
Now that the Dems control the Senate and House, say goodbye to your hopes and dreams of an immigrant free America. hahahahahahahahahah!
Democrats win could pave way for immigration reform
The Democrats' takeover of Congress and ouster of some immigration hawks such as Scottsdale Congressman J.D. Hayworth could clear the way for approval of comprehensive immigration changes. Those could include a guest worker program, more enforcement, stiffer penalties against employers who hire illegals and pathways to legal status for undocumented workers already in the U.S. >>>>>>>
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2006/11/06/daily42.html
"Ha Ha.... ya right bryan saxton their disapearance is really going to effect our economy... give us a break. "
Right... so nothing is going to happen to our economy when we get rid of 45% of agricultural workers... whatever.
So, do you think that Bush rigged the midterm elections so that the Dems would take over the House and Senate ? Then he his Guest worker program for Illegal immigrants would sail through. That is a theory.
Heath Schuler is just one Democrat and is a minority in a sea of the best bleeding heart Dem leadership that George Soros' money can buy !
I am not at all sure that being voted out because Republicans (for which I am one)have failed to vote for principled leaders is a bad thing. We voted for Bush, we voted for Gordon Smith,some voted for Billy Dalto, some voted for Debbie Farr and yes there were those that voted for Saxton. We needed a very loud , expensive lesson.
Daniel - you are great.
At least you do something, while others sit on their couches and claim that they are in support of immigration control (in both parties).
Some people are already searching for other countries to live in. Why wait until our communities look more and more depressing - with unemployed men hanging around on street corners? Our kids can't even take a walk safely.
There are more pleasant countries and places where illegals are discouraged.
Those with education and money (OPTIONS) will be leaving....
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