Thursday, March 26, 2009

Oldie but goody

Today's recycled post is timely. Directly from a DHS newsletter in 2004:

This month’s accuracy tips have to do with how the application should be filled out by an applicant. The application (DHS 415F) was designed to capture the information of clients who apply for benefits and those who live in the same household but do not seek benefits for themselves. Civil Rights regulations prohibit us from requiring clients to disclose their SSN or citizenship when they are not applying for benefits for themselves. Therefore, in filling out the application, clients who are not applying for themselves should list their names under thesecond section of #3 on page 2 of the DHS 415F, where it says “List all other people living in your home.”

Example: Mom comes in to apply for food stamps for self and her three children. Mom lists the three children on the application as the people she is applying to receive benefits for. She lists herself as another person in the HH, and does not want benefits for herself. There are a few reasons Mom might not want benefits for herself; one might be that she is an ineligible non-citizen, and does not want to disclose her status, and does not have a valid SSN.

In the FS Chapter, Section D.6, it states that only those persons who want benefits are required to provide their SSN. Other persons living in the household are not required to provide their SSN. You will not pend the application for the SSN or citizen status of the person that does not wish to be in the benefit group.

And there you have it folks. Imagine that you are an American citizen who was just laid off from work. You are in line behind these folks.


Anonymous said...

I thought conservatives would cheer for those who said "no benefits for me" but I guess I was wrong. "Those people" of whom you speak are United States citizens.

Anonymous said...

DHS just increased Welfare Benefits to folks. I love it. You hateful nag babies do nothing but complain about the Gubermint, but yet they just keep doing things you don't like. Maybe someday you will learn and pack your bags and renounce your citizenship. There is plenty of islands you can move to. Bikini Atoll comes to mind.

Kaelri said...

I... am confused. Given the characters in this example, you resent waiting in line behind children citizens who want food stamps? I am clearly missing something.

Bobkatt said...

Kaelri-come on your feigned ignorance here doesn't cut it. You know that the indignation comes from decades of flaunting the law on immigration and the obvious misuse of the 14th. amendment to allow illegals to continue to come here and drop "Anchor babies". Intended to secure the rights of former slaves, this misuse is the cause of current family separation and antagonism toward parents who are illegals.
Before you state the obvious that the amendment guarantees the citizenship of all those born here remember that at the time of it's authorship it was never anticipated that millions of illegals would be allowed to circumvent the immigration laws and flood in in such numbers. This is the same argument used by liberals to restrict the 2nd amendments "right to bare arms". It's time to revisit the 14th. amendment and restrict citizenship to children of legal parents.

Kaelri said...

And I fundamentally disagree. I do not believe in punishing children for the crimes of their parents. We may not like how they were given their citizenship rights, but they have done nothing to deserve being stripped of them. I'm not glad that their lives are used as a bargaining tactic for the purpose of illegal immigration, but it is by a wide margin the lesser of two evils.

Anonymous said...

Human beings do not "breed," as I have seen the term used so often here in Miglavia, nor do they "drop" offspring. American citizens are not "anchor babies." They are human beings who were born in America. Shame on you for denegrating human life by attaching insults to it. How Christian of you. I'll bet you're all about "right to life" too.

Bobkatt, most devout Miglavian, the LAW currently provides citizenship to any human being born on American soil. If you don't like it, perhaps you should go to work to change it. Good luck.

Meanwhile, I, along with millions upon millions of otherU.S. taxpayers, am glad to know MY tax dollars are feeding AMERICAN children, regardless of the circumstances of their birth.

Bobkatt said...

Anon 3:22- Why the sudden act of sensitivity you name calling hypocrite. You spend 90% of you time bitching and denigrating the rest of us with your stupid little Maglavian references and your profanity.
At least Kaelri usually has something intelligent to add to the discussion even though I usually disagree. You on the other hand are simply a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

Name-calling hypocrite? Bwaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaaa! Now THAT's funny!!!! Because, bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaa, BobKatt NEVER calls ANYONE names!!!! Bwaaaahaaahaaaaahaaaaaa! Noooooooooo! Not Bobkatt...never calls names. Bwaaahaaaahaaaaaa! ROTFLMAO. Stupid Miglavian.

nezua said...

OR wait...imagine you are her child, while you are sitting there behind your little keyboard fantasizing. And she fed you! Now you don't have to cry from hunger. You can eat. OH but there's a bald angry man writing a blog in oregon who isnt so happy! Imagine THAT!

Grow up, creep.