Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Because they know better than us

A Google news search for "Oregon" this morning reveals the following in the legislature:

A bill for banning "puppy mills" (read: commercial breeding)
Oregon mulls tobacco tax hike
Senate to vote to restrict dishwasher soap (it's for the planet)
Bill for calorie counts at fast food restraunts
More regulation on tax refund companies
Bill to restrict fire retardents in upholstery

Now ask yourselves, how on earth did our civilization survive up until this moment being able to buy puppies, smoke tobacco, wash our dishes, eat at Burger King, get a "rapid refund" and sit on furniture that is resistent to flame?

Thank goodness we send our best and brightest to Salem.


Anonymous said...

Are they even working for the people that elected them, you know as in US Citizens? Why do I say this?

They will have a Hearing for in-state Tuition ONLY for Illegal aliens soon herein Oregon, costing us over $13,000 p/yr.(Yes you pay for their College degree but they can't take a job anyhow) Yet they will not have a Hearing on the Bill to make E-Verify mandatory to protect American and legal immigrant workers.

So We pay even more for Illegal aliens while YOUR representatvies won't protect our jobs.

Isn't that literally Taxation without representation?

DAVE01 said...

I think we are now officially in bizarro world. Of course they want to give criminal aliens cheap tuition, where do you think the next president will come from after this illegal alien one serves his one term?

Anonymous said...

Wow, Dave01. Obama is an illegal alien?

Dave, it truly is tragic that there are so many right-wingers like you, who are all too willing to live up to the most negative stereotypes about right-wingers.

Please, keep your ignorance to yourself. You're an embarrassment to actual conservatives.

Anonymous said...

... and then ask yourself: How on earth did our civilization survive for thousands of years with people freely moving from one place on the globe to another to make a living without being branded "illegal aliens" by governments and being dehumanized, ridiculed and harassed by Miglavians?

Anonymous said...

anonomoron-easy, many were shackled in chains and brought in the holds of ships. Others slashed and burned their way through superior force. Still others were invited. Name a modern country that doesn't have immigration laws that in one form or the other are not enforced. Does your precious Mexico fill that bill?
dehumanized, ridiculed and harassed good Lord what a drama queen.

Anonymous said...

Still others weren't invited ...

Miglavian wisdom, offered without a trace of irony. Amazing. Okay 9:04, back on the boat, you fool.

Bobkatt said...

No answer from anonochicken. Just more peck, peck, peck. Death by a thousand pecks.

DAVE01 said...

ANON 11:44 AM
I have to show a birth certificate to get a drivers license in Oregon. Why shouldn't the messiah show his birth certificate to be the POTUS?
I'm not talking about the fake COLB running around on the internet. I want to see the "Vault Copy" of his BC. Until then, I will call him an illegal alien. Why will he not show his vault copy of his BC? It's cheap and easy to do so.

You are missing the point of what is truly tragic. It is tragic that the government is not enforcing our laws, not protecting our sovereignty. It is tragic letting illegal aliens vote and involve themselves in the political process (by the way, that would be illegal in mexico). It is tragic that our politicians get kickbacks (campaign donations) from companies like AIG and then the politicians steal trillions of dollars and mortgage our grand children's future away to support failed billionaires.

It is tragic that more Americans are not aware of what is going on. Americans are too well fed and entertained.

Bobkatt said...

I'm with you Dave. The usurper in chief has been challenged by soldiers in the field, congressmen, state district attorneys and Democrats and Republicans alike.
Just because as of yet no one has the balls to make him produce the actual birth certificate, his health records and his school records doesn't change the fact that he has yet to prove that he is eligible to be president under the rules of the Constitution.
If Mr. Obama is to run as he claims, the most open administration in history, this obstructionist is off to a bad start.

Anonymous said...

This is such a non-story, but whatever floats your boats, Dave and Bobkatt.


If there was an shred of a possibility that Obama was not legally eligible to be president, don't you think that it would get some traction in the media, courts, etc.?

Spare me the conspiracy theories...

Anonymous said...

SUMMARY: Email rumor claims that Barack Obama is ineligible to become president because according to the laws in effect at the time of his birth he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States.

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: June 2008
Status: False

Email example contributed by Carol D., June 8, 2008:


It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president after all for the following reason:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986?

Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after*.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. ***

Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia.

Now you can see why Obama's aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law. I think the Gov. of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.

Comments: False. Contrary to the arguments set forth above, Barack Obama is, in fact, a natural-born citizen of the United States, for the simple reason that he was born on American soil (in Hawaii, two years after it acquired statehood). The age and citizenship status of Obama's parents at the time have no bearing on Obama's own citizenship.

Any confusion on this point is the result of misunderstanding the legal concepts of jus sanguinis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of birthplace). Here's how the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service explains the difference:

The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees citizenship at birth to almost all individuals born in the United States or in U.S. jurisdictions, according to the principle of jus soli. Certain individuals born in the United States, such as children of foreign heads of state or children of foreign diplomats, do not obtain U.S. citizenship under jus soli.
Certain individuals born outside of the United States are born citizens because of their parents, according to the principle of jus sanguinis (which holds that the country of citizenship of a child is the same as that of his / her parents).

It is a fact that under the provisions of Article Two of the U.S. Constitution naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of president, but this disqualification does not apply to Barack Obama, who has been a citizen since birth.
UPDATE: Is Barack Obama's birth certificate invalid?
Self-styled "experts" have questioned the validity of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate as posted online, but after examining the actual physical document, investigators at Factcheck.org (Annenberg Public Policy Center) concluded it is authentic. The state of Hawaii has also affirmed its validity. Read the details...

UPDATE: Berg v. Obama lawsuit dismissed
A federal lawsuit filed in Pennsylvania by attorney Philip J. Berg charged that Obama was either born or naturalized in a foreign country and is therefore ineligible for the office of President. The case was thrown out of court on Friday, October 24, 2008 by U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick, who concluded in his decision that Berg's arguments were, among other things, "frivolous and not worthy of discussion." Read the details...

Anonymous said...

Thanks 12:26 for regurgitating a mountain of bullshit that's already been debunked a thousand times -- including by John McCain. You Miglavians really cling to your little fantasies, don't you?