Sunday, January 06, 2008

Ramon and PCUN

Kulongoski won't delay new license rules
Gov. Ted Kulongoski on Thursday refused to delay implementation of stiffer Oregon driver's license rules, angering Hispanic community leaders and immigrant-advocacy groups while pleasing opponents of illegal immigration.

Ramon Ramirez, the president of the Northwest Treeplanters and Farmworkers United, the state's largest farmworker union, accused Kulongoski of not valuing the state's Latino [illegal] immigrant community.

Latino immigrants have nothing to fear, it's illegal aliens who will be affected. But just so we are on the same page with who PCUN and Ramon Ramirez are:

Translated: the proposal of the Senate is an advance but it is not sufficient

This was when the Senate passed the S.2611 amnesty bill. But amnesty was not enough. They wanted a bill that "leads to citizenship for immigrants who are here today and those who come in the future." Aka open borders.

Ramon Ramirez can be seen on the far right presiding over a rally during which the Mexican flag wavers and communists supported illegal aliens getting state services inside a private union hall. (We protested)

Way to go Ramon, your boys make such compelling arguments in favor of illegal aliens. And communist groups are so mainstream Ramon, how come you don't list them as your supporters when you talk to Thelma at the Statesman Journal?

Ramon and PCUN are so fringe that for the SJ to quote them would be like a financial article about the NYSE getting quotes from nutjobs who insist that our only legal currency is gold.

One of my favorite PCUN related posts:
No pride just shame

Love ya Ramon
ramonramirez@pcun.org

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I read the "El Hispanic News" from time to time as it is free and I always have time to kill at work. They had a end of year issue and a quick look back at some of their major stories from the year.

The majority of the blurbs were about immigration, and EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM was bad news to the illegal alien loving community that they cater to with their rag. It put a smile on my face knowing that we are winning the battle.

Now if we can just get some of the laws enforced like the "No Match" letters and get the wall built it will be all but over for the stealing invaders. They will have no choice but to take their anchor babies with them and head south.

Not that I have anything against their children, but I have great anger towards a group of people who think it is their right to break in and force themselves upon the legal citizens of this country.

A Poor Smuck said...

And just so we know who Oregonians for Immigration Refom, Daniel's Political Musings and the Oregon Minutemen Align with and are members of:

Besides pedophiles:

Xenophobe OR Blogger Busted for Child Sex Crimes

Who else? (is this America?):

Hate Groups Hijack Immigration Debate

Dec 13, 2007

This week the Southern Poverty Law Center classified the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) as a hate group. With the number of hate groups up by 40 percent since 2000, the immigration debate has proven to be a fertile ground for hate groups looking to spread their racist beliefs under the guise of immigration reform, writes Mark Potok, who monitors hate groups for the SPLC. IMMIGRATION MATTERS regularly features the views of the nation’s leading immigrant rights advocates.

When it comes to debating immigration, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) has a knack for finding a place at the table to pitch its position.

In the past six years, FAIR officials have testified at least 30 times before Congress, and they have been quoted by the mainstream media more than 500 times so far in 2007. Earlier this year, the group played a key role in defeating bipartisan immigration reform legislation in Congress. In short, FAIR is taken seriously as a legitimate commentator.

It shouldn’t be.

Despite its frequent turns in the media spotlight, FAIR has a 20-year track record of bigotry and extremism that has led the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to classify the organization as a hate group. The latest issue of the SPLC’s quarterly Intelligence Report delves into FAIR’s history of bigotry and white supremacy. These are some of the findings:

• FAIR was founded in 1979 by John Tanton, who has compared immigrants to “bacteria” and warned that high birthrates will allow Latinos to “take over” America. Still a member of FAIR’s board, Tanton also operates The Social Contract Press, listed as a hate group for many years by the Southern Poverty Law Center because of its white supremacist writings.

• FAIR has accepted more than $1 million from the Pioneer Fund, a racist foundation devoted to eugenics and to proving a connection between race and IQ. While others have returned the fund’s money after learning of their background, FAIR President Dan Stein had no qualms about it, telling a reporter in 1993, “My job is to get every dime of Pioneer’s money.”

• Key staff members at FAIR have ties to white supremacist groups. For example, Joseph Turner, who was hired by FAIR in late 2006 as its western field representative, led a nativist hate group called Save Our State. Turner also defended white separatism on Save Our State’s electronic bulletin board.

• FAIR has successfully spread racist conspiracy theories, including the bogus claim that Mexico has set its sights on “reconquering” the Southwest and the notion of a secret plot to merge the United States, Canada and Mexico.

While much of this information has been available for years, it has not affected FAIR’s standing in the media. However, FAIR left little doubt about the way it does business this past February when a top official met with the leaders of Vlaams Belang, a Belgian political party that under its previous name, Vlaams Blok, was officially banned by the Belgian Supreme Court as a racist and xenophobic group. The meeting was held to seek the Europeans’ “advice” on immigration.

This meeting led the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate group activity, to take another look at FAIR. Upon completing the investigation, it was obvious that FAIR qualified as a hate group. Early next year, when the SPLC’s annual hate group list is published, FAIR will be on the list.

The listing of FAIR as a hate group is significant because FAIR is the hub of the American nativist movement. Its position on immigration is rooted more in its anti-Latino and anti-Catholic beliefs than in policy concerns.

Remarkably, FAIR has infiltrated the mainstream and shaped the immigration debate in this country. This group, more than any other, has contributed to the rancid turn the national immigration discussion has taken. With FAIR fanning the flames of xenophobic intolerance, hate groups and hate crimes directed at Latinos continue to rise in America.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has documented a 40 percent increase in the number of hate groups since 2000, an increase that SPLC analysts attribute to the anti-immigrant fervor that is sweeping the country. The FBI recently released statistics showing a 35 percent rise in hate crimes against Latinos since 2003.

This country deserves an open and honest immigration debate. However, the debate has proven to be a fertile ground for hate groups looking to spread their racist beliefs under the guise of immigration reform. That is why it is crucial for the American public to understand the background and motives of the groups shaping this debate, such as FAIR. The nation’s immigration debate is simply too important to be poisoned by a bigoted group manipulating it for its own xenophobic reasons.

Mark Potok is the director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, which investigates hate groups, and the editor of the SPLC’s Intelligence Report.

dchamil said...

The first sign reads, "Don't be deceived, the immigration proposal is still not a law."

The second sign has two words spelled wrong.
"Human" should be "humano."
"Imigrantes" should be "inmigrantes."

Go back to Spanish class, you guys!

Bobkatt said...

If you look into the background of the SPLC you will see why most people take anything said by them with a grain of salt.
A simple Google of the SPLC and Morris Dees the founder will show you that this alleged race baiter, pervert huckster is more about the Benjamins than any other cause.
Also look at how his barrage of lawyers managed to steal American's property and hand it over to trespassing illegal aliens.
The SPLC raises millions of dollars by exaggerating the numbers and impact of "Hate Groups" in America in order to solicit contributions from fearful donors.

Anthony DeLucca said...

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a private organization. Just because they classify a group as a "hate" group, doesn't make it so. Their defination of what constitutes a "Racist" may be different from other definitions. It is obvious from reading some of their findings that simply being against illegal immigration, (they rarely use the word "illegal" in their writings, and simply use "Anti-Immigration") may define one as a "White Supremecist".

The same is true on my side of the fence as well. My definition of an Liberal, may not be someone else's. My definition of a treasonous anti-american, may not be someone else's either.

Until the Justice Dept. Designates a group as a "Hate Group" such as they have done with the KKK, the Aryan Brotherhood, etc.., It just isn't so. It is simply the opinion of the Southern Poverty Law Center that F.A.I.R. is a hate group.

Scottiebill said...

The SPLC classifies every group that disagrees with them as a "hate group". Anthony is right. Until the Justice Dept. classifies them as a "hate group", they are nothing more than a bunch of southern malcontents that are kind of like the ACLU. Royal pains in the collective butts of the right-thinking people of the U.S.

Scottiebill said...

Also, if Teddy the Useless had buckled under to the Latino community over his executive order, then he would have shown himself to be even more useless as a governor than he is now.

Anonymous said...

The SPLC calls an organization they don’t like a “hate” group. Gee, what a surprise, (yawn). Defining “hate group” is like defining “hate speech”. It is all in the eye of the beholder. The simple fact is the SPLC has a history of not debating issues on the merit of the views of the SPLC. They would rather attack and attempt to discredit organizations that disagree with them. Fortunately, this tactic has become well know and not widely accepted.

We go down a dangerous path when we attempt to define “hate”. Freedom and liberty will become the first sacrifices.

Anonymous said...

"hate crimes directed at Latinos continue to rise in America" um wow and the libs bitch at us for not posting links to facts?

J.D. said...

ULTIMATELY, these foreign invaders are anarchists who think they can prevent the rule of law from existing in the United States.

What they don't realize is that we don't want our country to look like theirs: corrupt, crime-ridden, diseased with millions evacuating each year.

And as you noted, the communists and socialists (who have been bent on destroying America since the early 1900s) consider these foreign anarchists useful idiots.

Enjoy my Border Security Blog:
http://bordersecurityblog.blogspot.com/


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