Monday, January 07, 2008

It's so fun paying for illegal aliens health care

The Oregon Health Fund Board was created by Senate Bill 329. (The Healthy Oregon Act) The Board is developing a comprehensive plan to achieve the Oregon Health Fund program goals outlined in SB 329.

I'm already afraid...

Invited testimony: Karen House, DHS Children and Families regarding current federal program eligibility related to citizenship or immigration status.

This meeting already happened last month. The conclusions:
Health Equities Committee Policy Recommendations on Citizenship
As consistent with current practices in the private marketplace, no citizenship documentation requirements will be in place to participate in the Oregon Health Fund program.

That means goodies for illegals.

Individuals and families receiving subsidies through the Trust will be required to participate in an insurance product that ensures patient centered-primary care in a culturally-appropriate and linguistically-competent medical home.

That means the service provider will have brown skin and speak Spanish. Dead serious.

So these boards/committees have already decided that illegal aliens should be at the trough, what's in store for future meetings?

Training a culturally-competent provider workforce

Brainstorming on funding mechanisms

Background and Invited testimony on strategies to empower and incentivize individuals to make health lifestyle choices through program policy.

You know what culturally competent means, "funding mechanism" is always another tax, fee, excise, surcharge, etc but it all comes from you and "empower [us] to make health[y] lifestyle choices" means that Wendy's will have to take the "Baconator" off their menu.


Anonymous said...

yes, but the draft recommendations said one line below what you quoted..."no state dollars will be used to subsidize the health care of individuals who are not eligible to participate in federal programs such as Medicare or Medicaid because of citizenship status." So no taxpayer dollars go to care for the illegals, but they can participate in the program (if they pay for it themselves) least that's how I read it.

Mike said...


Vote for who you hope wins in New Hampshire.


Anonymous said...

If Miglavs likes paying for illegals' health care, wait until he gets the bill for the baby boomers. Unauthorized migrants tend to be of prime working age (i.e. quite healthy) and thus pose FAR less of a drain on the system than the boomers will.

Daniel's waiting for the economy to crash due to a lack of illegal workers, but the real threat to the economy is our rapidly aging population.

One immediate step we might take is to invest heavily in public education (maybe we can put some distance between ourselves and say, Venezuela, in terms of the woeful math and science scores our kids are turning in) which might eventuate in a talented generation of Americans with more creative solutions to the problems facing the country than the ignorant fare of the day: illegal immigrant scapegoating and calls for neo-isolationism.

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget about the thousands of sick people who will come here from the other 49 states and US protectorates and that a good many of them have major mental problems.

Scottiebill said...

Anon 5:43 - What's this "undocumented migrants" crap? They are illegal. Period. If you were to rob a bank, you would probably consider that an "undocumented withdrawal", would you not? I doubt that the law enforcement people would take that for an excuse, though.

Some people really do not know, understand, use, or comprehend the word "illegal". And don't try to use that old song-and-dance, "No person is illegal" b.s. People are illegal if they are in someone else's country without proper authorization. If I were to break into your house in the middle of the night and take up residence there without your permission, would you consider me an "undocumented resident"? Somehow, I doubt it. You would likely call the cops and report me for breaking and entering.

Maybe it's time for you to get your priorities straight. No? I didn't think so.

Anonymous said...

Wow, Scottiebill! All that over a word? Let's count. I used "unauthorized" once. I used the word "illegal" three times.

Does it really matter?

The point is, they're unauthorized to be here. Yet, most work at very high rates. To many of us, this suggests a systemic problem: immigration laws and quotas are not in step with the American economy which puts unauthorized or ILLEGAL immigrants to work at high rates.

One thing or the other has to change. Either we need to legalize the illegals who are at work in this country, or we need to figure out a way to get native-born people to do the work that low-skilled Mexican immigrants do. I've not seen one proposal of how the latter might be accomplished.

The typical restrictionist's obsession with legality (which is ignorant of the fact that immigration laws and quotas have changed numerous times throughout history to suit the needs of the nation) allows him to remain in his convenient little black-and-white world, and thus completely ignore the realities of our economy and population age structure.

Exhibit A: Scottiebill, who actually thinks his brilliant post on the euphemistic nature of the word "unauthorized" actually leads somewhere productive.

"Some people really do not know, understand, use, or comprehend the word "illegal"."

As I said, I used it three times, and thus, seem to comprehend it well enough.

Some people lack the critical thinking skills necessary to understand that "legality" is a construction of social institutions rather than a natural state. Again, Exhibit A: Scottiebill.

Rick Hickey said...

Daniel, We haven't caught up to California's BILLIONS to Illegals Taxpayer funded programs yet, but Oregon "leaders" sure are trying hard.

Illegal Aliens Receive $37 Million From County In November
Written by Carol Rock
Sunday, 06 January 2008
Welfare and food stamp benefits soar $3 million higher than September payout.

New statistics from the Department of Public Social Services reveal that illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in November 2007 – up $3 million dollars from September, announced Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich.
Twenty five percent of the all welfare and food stamps benefits is going directly to the children of illegal aliens. Illegals collected over $20 million in welfare assistance for November 2007 and over $16 million in monthly food stamp allocations for a projected annual cost of $444 million.
“This new information shows an alarming increase in the devastating impact Illegal immigration continues to have on Los Angeles County taxpayers,” said Antonovich. “With $220 million for public safety, $400 million for healthcare, and $444 million in welfare allocations, the total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers far exceeds $1 billion a year– not including the millions of dollars for education.”

And remember, although on average most Illegals are young, Third Worlders have much higher health care needs on average from previous lack of any health care and low rates of personal hygeine to include TB2 @ 1/4 Million $$ each to cure and Dengue & Chigas disease.

If Illegal Aliens were really "good for the economy" Calfornia would be enjoying a huge Tax Surplus and A+ Credit rating, they have neither.