Saturday, January 31, 2009

Votes are again told to jump in a lake

Oregon judge blocks measure restricting immigrant hiring
A Columbia County judge blocked a voter-backed ballot measure that would fine employers for hiring illegal immigrants from taking effect as scheduled Monday.

The measure was challenged by a coalition of Columbia County business owners and voters represented by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Northwest Workers' Justice Project.

You can see the actual lawsuit here. The plaintiffs who need to be boycotted include:

Plaintiff Daniel R. Garrison is the proprietor of Daniel R. Garrison, CPA, PC, a business in Columbia County.

Plaintiff Gary Liao is the proprietor of, a business in St. Helens.

Plaintiff Tony Mandella is a construction contractor and a voter within Columbia County, Oregon.

And most interesting to me is:

Plaintiff Jesus Ochoa-Madrueno is a resident of Columbia County and is ordinarily employed in construction work in the County. He is of Mexican national origin.

Does this mean an illegal alien is suing the voters of Columbia County? All other plaintiffs are listed as a "voter of Columbia County who own real property." What does "ordinarily employed" mean? I don't know for sure that Mr. Ochoa-Madrueno is an illegal alien but in this context the indicators sure seem to point in that direction.

It stands to reason that this measure, which simply requires the government to enforce their own laws, caused the above plaintiff to become unemployed since he was working illegaly, identifying himself illegaly, commiting perjury and probably ID theft by using your SSN or mine when he filled out his employment paperwork.

The media won't look into this because they are not reporters of the news, they are lapdogs for liberablism. The outrage that would occur if the public new that an illegal alien could sue to overturn the will of the voters would be tremedous.


Anonymous said...

We can question if the Hispanic has legal standing in court and that can even be appealed, potentially, but it is moot because the other plaintiffs have standing.

This thing reminds me of Prop 187. Back then, Pete Wilson largely said the same things, especially that the Feds had the responsibility and were not carrying out their duties. So he wanted to do something. He was stopped cold in his tracks. I am not sure what has happened with the AZ law, but they seem to be having a lot of success dealing with the illegals.

But you need to remember where you live. Regardless of fault, this is a shitty state that will welcome illegals all day long and basically pass all the laws that you disagree with. No one outside of Oregon really likes Oregon. It is just too fucking cuckoo.

Anonymous said...

For those of you who hate Oregon and bitch about it incessantly. One word of advice: MOVE.

Anonymous said...

Pissed off about being told to "jump in a lake" Miglavs? Funny. I felt the same way about Bush v. Gore. Don't recall you having an aversion to lakes then.

Anonymous said...

1:29, or we could just hope that the terrorists fucking level it, right? I mean, if you want to be an asshole about it spouting out all kinds of idiocies? Or maybe we can just fight a little war in the state. You know, a real civil war. You fuck.

DAVE01 said...

ANON 1:29 PM,
I've been here over thirty years. Why don't you leave and take the criminal aliens with you? I recommend California. We don't hate Oregon, we hate all the cuckoo liberals. It's the crazy voters who vote scumbags in like Sam Adams and Ted Kulongoski (the do nothing governor who probably knew Neil the pedophile Goldschmidt was raping his baby sitter).

Or the idiots that vote for the messiah. The messiah who won't allow lobbyists into his administration.

I love the last paragraph:

Would you believe, Obama had to issue 17 waivers on his own rule in less than two weeks for allowing lobbyist enter his Administration and control Governance of America!

How about voting for the messiah who wants nine hundred billion dollars and has to have it now even though only a few percent of that will be for jobs and the money won't be spent for years. Most of it is for pork. One example is five billion for the criminal organization ACORN. Now that is job stimulus.

They are stealing from our families to reward the criminals that got them elected. You are idiots who voted for the empty suit. However, other countries will soon be testing him. I hope for our sakes he can pass the test. I doubt it, but I hope he does.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe we can just fight a little war in the state ...

Hmmm ... yet another allusion by a Miglavian lunatic to the potential (or desire?) for right-wing violence against political opponents. Is this what you want? You can't win a debate with words, so you want to the shooting to start?

What do you think about this, Daniel?

Anonymous said...

Dear Miglavians,

I read this in this morning's New York Times, your favorite newspaper. It reminded me of you.

February 1, 2009
The Nativists Are Restless

The relentlessly harsh Republican campaign against immigrants has always hidden a streak of racialist extremism. Now after several high-water years, the Republican tide has gone out, leaving exposed the nativism of fringe right-wingers clinging to what they hope will be a wedge issue.

Last week at the National Press Club in Washington, a group seeking to speak for the future of the Republican Party declared that its November defeats in Congressional races stemmed not from having been too hard on foreigners, but too soft.

The group, the American Cause, released a report arguing that anti-immigration absolutism was still the solution for the party’s deep electoral woes, actual voting results notwithstanding. Rather than “pander to pro-amnesty Hispanics and swing voters,” as President Bush and Karl Rove once tried to do, the report’s author, Marcus Epstein, urged Republicans to double down on their efforts to run on schemes to seal the border and drive immigrants out.

This is nonsense, of course. For years Americans have rejected the cruelty of enforcement-only regimes and Latino-bashing, in opinion surveys and at the polls. In House and Senate races in 2008 and 2006, “anti- amnesty” hard-liners consistently lost to candidates who proposed comprehensive reform solutions. The wedge did not work for single-issue xenophobes like Lou Barletta, the mayor of Hazleton, Pa., or the former Arizona Congressman J. D. Hayworth. Nor did it help any of the Republican presidential candidates trying to defeat the party’s best-known voice of immigration moderation, John McCain, for the nomination.

Americans want immigration solved, and they realize that mass deportations will not do that. When you add the unprecedented engagement of growing numbers of Latino voters in 2008, it becomes clear that the nativist path is the path to permanent political irrelevance. Unless you can find a way to get rid of all the Latinos.

What was perhaps more notable than the report itself was the team that delivered it. It included Bay Buchanan, former adviser to Representative Tom Tancredo and sister of Pat, who founded the American Cause and wrote “State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America.” She was joined by James Pinkerton, an essayist and Fox News contributor who, as an aide to the first President Bush, took credit for the racist Willie Horton ads run against Michael Dukakis.

So far, so foul. But even more telling was the presence of Peter Brimelow, a former Forbes editor and founder of, an extremist anti-immigration Web site. It is named for Virginia Dare, the first white baby born in the English colonies, which tells you most of what you need to know. The site is worth a visit. There you can read Mr. Brimelow’s and Mr. Buchanan’s musings about racial dilution and the perils facing white people, and gems like this from Mr. Epstein:

“Diversity can be good in moderation — if what is being brought in is desirable. Most Americans don’t mind a little ethnic food, some Asian math whizzes, or a few Mariachi dancers — as long as these trends do not overwhelm the dominant culture.”

It is easy to mock white-supremacist views as pathetic and to assume that nativism in the age of Obama is on the way out. The country has, of course, made considerable progress since the days of Know-Nothings and the Klan. But racism has a nasty habit of never going away, no matter how much we may want it to, and thus the perpetual need for vigilance.

It is all around us. Much was made of the Republican mailing of the parody song “Barack the Magic Negro,” but the same notorious CD included “The Star Spanglish Banner,” a puerile bit of Latino-baiting. It is easily found on YouTube. Google the words “Bill O’Reilly” and “white, Christian male power structure” for another YouTube taste of the Fox News host assailing the immigration views of “the far left” (including The Times) as racially traitorous.

And it takes only a cursory look at a worsening economic climate and grim national mood to realize that history is always threatening to repeat itself. Last week on Long Island, the authorities in Suffolk County unsealed new indictments against a group of teenage boys accused in a murderous attack against an Ecuadorean immigrant, Marcelo Lucero. Since that crime last year, many more victims have come forward with stories of assaults in or near the same town, Patchogue. The police in that suburb seem to have made a habit of ignoring a long and escalating trail of attacks against immigrant men, until the hatred rose up and spilled over one night, fatally.

Anonymous said...

Except that in the Miglavians' case, the "racialist streak" is not hidden.

Watch now ... a drooling, knuckle-dragging Miglavian will pout that they are not racist, and will demand that someone "prove" it. Also, look for heavy use of the words "fag," "faggot," "fuck" and "phag" (the latter of which, in Miglavia, remains both an amusing and imaginative variation of "fag." Usually followed by a "LOL.")

DAVE01 said...

ANON 7:00 AM
How can you believe anything the NYT says? From the NYT post, it says only latinos are the only illegals.

You can tell this article is bullshit. It says:

Nor did it help any of the Republican presidential candidates trying to defeat the party’s best-known voice of immigration moderation, John McCain, for the nomination.

McCain was the pro amnesty jackass of the Republican party. He lost. This article contradicts itself. You are an idiot. You sound French. I guess that makes me a racist because I'm calling you a cheese eating frog.

You moron, there are several tens of thousands illegal aliens Irish. Do you remember the nut job Irish man killed in Silverton last year?
I'm part Irish, I want them gone too! I guess that makes me a racist against the Irish too.

Let's look at the mexican constitution.

Article 32

"Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable." Foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico may not serve as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, or chiefs of seaports and airports.

Why would such a lovely country as mexico have such a racist constitution? Nice try. Check out the articles from that lovely countrymexico.

Article 55
A deputy or senator must be "a Mexican citizen by birth."

Article 91
Cabinet officers must be Mexicans by birth.

Article 95
Supreme Court justices must be Mexican by birth.

You are such a fool.

This country is doomed because of people like you! Since this is such a racist country, I recommend you move to mexico.

Anonymous said...

That was a brilliant post, Dave.



Bobkatt said...

anon 7:00- Thanks for the news flash. The NY Times editorial staff is liberal and wants amnesty. Who would have thought? Try reading anything by Ruben Navarette. At least he is consistently bias with his lies and spin.

Don Nam Vet said...

Exclusive: More Stimulus Follies – Illegal Aliens Cash In while Veterans Get the ShaftPam Meister

During the 1700s and 1800s, immigrants who wanted to come to America were lured by the prospect of streets that were “lined with gold.” Well the streets may not have been lined with gold, but for those who had the will and desire to work hard, the possibilities for success were potentially endless.

The streets still are not lined with gold – but if Washington liberals get their way, the pockets of illegal aliens could be lined with taxpayer dollars. Part of the economic stimulus bill that was just passed by the House (except for House Republicans and 11 Democrats who voted against it), includes “tax credits” of $500 per person and $1,000 per couple. (Note: if the recipients pay no taxes, it’s not a credit, it’s a handout.) Apparently the wording specifically disqualifies “nonresident aliens” – Washington-speak for illegals – people with no Social Security numbers could still get the cashola:

Undocumented immigrants [liberal reporter-speak for illegals] who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.

In other words, it doesn’t disqualify illegal aliens. Awesome. Why bother having borders anymore? We are no longer “fellow Americans,” we are “fellow citizens.” Brings to mind the French Revolution…we all know how that turned out.

Meanwhile, in the same bill – which, let’s be clear (to use a stock phrase from our Glorious Leader), isn’t a stimulus bill but just an excuse to broaden the influence of government – five pro-veteran amendments were shot down in committee. They included veteran work force training, small business loans to veterans, increased vocational training for veterans and job training for homeless female veterans and homeless veterans with children. One of the amendments didn’t even cost anything – it simply stipulated that any roads or bridges paid for with “stimulus money” would be named for a U.S. armed forces member killed in action.

So while illegal aliens can have a shot at what has turned from the American Dream into the Great American Handout, amendments that would have actually helped boost employment and help veterans at the same time were shot down.

How often to we hear liberals crying that they support the troops, even when they don’t support the mission? How about the children? “It’s for the children” is a phrase that we often hear when the government is about to blithely spend more of our money – the S-CHIP program is a prime example. So why say no to veterans with children? Add the fact that this will help some homeless veterans, the homeless being another favorite liberal special interest group, and it should have been an instant winner.

To be perfectly frank, the entire stimulus bill stinks to high heaven. Rush Limbaugh calls it the “porkulus” bill, which is a lot more accurate. It passed easily through the House and will undoubtedly pass through the Senate. But as long as we’re spending the money, it would have been nice if those who had served our nation would benefit instead of those who sponge off our nation.

Pass the ketchup. This bill will need a lot to make it palatable.

Note: If you have no idea what is included in this monster of a spending bill, click here to be enlightened. You might want to keep a receptacle handy.

Pam Meister is the editor of

Don Nam Vet said...

P.S. Nuke the liberals and illegals till they glow.....

Bobkatt said...

An Inconvenient Truth- 2.5 million Americans lost their jobs in 2008.
The Federal Government brought in 1.5 million foreigners to take those jobs. (not counting illegals).
Unless Congress and President Obama make a change-our system is set up to bring in an average of 138,000 new foreign workers each month.

Scottiebill said...

It really does no good at all to vote for anything other than candidates. Certainly not on initiatives, ballot measures, etc. because some liberal judge will surely overturn athe voters' wishes if that outcome does not agree with that judge's views.

I sometimes think that some judge would try to overturn the voters' preferences on candidates if that judge's candidate were not elected.

With the way things are in Oregon, look for that to be tried in the not too distant future.

Anonymous said...

To Don Nam Vet,

I wonder how many Vets know that Illegal alien "farmworkers" get a new Home or Apt. for 'bout $300 month. This includes high-speed internet and a Computer lab, new Washer & Dryer, Tutoring, free Day Care, English & Spanish classes AND 2 open border La Raza groups have a taxpayer funded headquarters there.

Homelesss Vets, people that would Die for this Nation, are ignored while Illegals that have a job have us taxpayers paying for their Housing, kids education and family's health care.

Sounds like crap too me.

We should Protest these Farmworker Housing places to bring awareness to this injustice!

I want these over 1,100 units (mostly 3 bed, 2 bath) to go to American Vets 1st!

Anonymous said...

Oregon judge blocks measure restricting immigrant hiring

EXCELLENT. This made my day. About time a right thinking judge boots these measures targeting immigrants. Maybe the clowns proposing them will get the message.

Informer said...

anon4:38 says "we could just hope that the terrorists fucking level it, right?..Or maybe we can just fight a little war in the state. You know, a real civil war.

Someone ought to give Homeland Security a call. That sounds like a threat against our elected government to me.

Anonymous said...

Im not a racist and I don't have to lower myself to name calling and "knuckle dragging". I don't like the things I see going on in Oregon. I see mexicans moving here and instead of aclimating to the American way of life they drag their third world, no class, no respect, and no American values with them. Instead their day is fueled by the need for beer. They play that shitty music and when you ask them to turn it down they say they dont speak english or threaten you. In the last two weeks alone Ive been assulted once over this. Don't worry it's not my obligation to get them evicted. I'm taking pictures and writing down their license plates. They hate it. Also since they can't seem to be respectfull and they have resorted to violence, I took it upon myself to visit the Salem fairgrounds during the gun show. I am now the proud owner of a nice P-229. Also I am speaking with my landlord about some more stringent guidelines for the the people he rents to.

Anonymous said...

"In the last two weeks alone Ive been assulted once over this."

Maybe you should shut your yap and people won't assult you.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many Vets know that Illegal alien "farmworkers" get a new Home or Apt. for 'bout $300 month. This includes high-speed internet and a Computer lab, new Washer & Dryer, Tutoring, free Day Care, English & Spanish classes AND 2 open border La Raza groups have a taxpayer funded headquarters there.

Dang Jefe, that is 'bout $100 more than I pay and I get picked up for work too.

Anonymous said...

"I'm not a racist"


"I don't like the things I see going on in Oregon. I see mexicans moving here ..."


Scottiebill said...

After reading Anon 6:31's post supporting the illegals coming here, one can only hope that Anon 6:31's job is the next one that an illegal takes.

DAVE01 said...

ANON 10:08 AM
"I'm not a racist"
"I don't like the things I see going on in Oregon. I see mexicans moving here ..."

I say hmmmmm, when did mexicans become a race? The person who stated, "I'm not a racist" has something called his/her First Amendment right. mexicans are a nationality not a race. mexicans are classified as WHITE you idiot.
Idiots like you keep screaming racist when if you are white you seem to hate your own race. That makes you the racist. Tell me one thing mexico has done that is so wonderful besides sending all their poor here? What have they invented that is beneficial for mankind besides showing millions of their people how to suck of the tit of the US?

Anonymous said...

idiots putting word in my mouth. think what you will but I know what I was saying.

Anonymous said...

What have they invented that is beneficial for mankind besides showing millions of their people how to suck of the tit of the US?

Proof that Dave knows absolutely nothing about the history of U.S.-Mexican economic relations prior to, oh, about yesterday.

Anonymous said...

So much for the principle of judging people by their character. In Miglavia, one's human worth, apparently, is measured by what they've invented. Well for your information, Dumbfuck Dave, the peoples of what is now known as Mexico domesticated Maize -- otherwise known as corn, which is, in one way or another, a crucial ingredient in virtually everything that Americans eat, with the exception of other natural foods found in the produce aisle.

What have you done lately, Dave, that is "beneficial for mankind"? Or are you too busy sucking at the tit of Lars Larson?

Anonymous said...

Ya'll illegal loving fudge packers are more than welcome to pack yer shit and go south, matter of fact get going now candy asses.

Anonymous said...

In Miglavia, the above comment constitutes a "response." Welcome to Miglavia.

Anonymous said...

No Anon, thats YOUR opinion, take responsibility loser.