Wednesday, January 10, 2007

Wu writes a guest column for BlueOregon

Bush: Admit Your Mistake, End This War.
Tomorrow, I hope that President Bush decides to take his Iraq War in a direction that brings our troops home, rather than to grasp at military straws to recover from a political error. If instead he escalates American participation in Iraq's civil war, every American who dies in Iraq from this day forward is a patriot lost because one American leader cannot admit mistakes.

Terrorists everywhere thank you for your support Mr. Wu.

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Tim said...

Mr. Wu, like most Democrats have a vested interest in America's defeat...that interest being the aquisition of power. To them (as bad as it sounds) the more Americans killed the better their chances in 2008. So they are so vested in hating Bush they will do anything to make him and America look bad if it means the aquisition of power. No wonder terrorists and communists were rooting for the Democrats in the last election cycle...they know who thier friends are.

Anonymous said...

what chance do we have in Iraq if we cannot secure our own boarders??
I say bring the money home!!

Calhoun said...

Part of the problem in Iraq is Bush's failure to control Iraq's borders. Loads of Iranians have now moved to Iraq, and are voting there.

Anonymous said...

Calhoun, you have no evidence for "loads of Iraninans moving to Iraq" and voting there. Iranians and Iraqis have a history of warring and hatred, and to attempt to apply the border-control issue to the Iraq war is a blatent overreach of your own personal agenda.

Kristopher said...

Actually, anon 9:19am, we have all sorts of evidence ... Iranian military personnel were caught red-handed voting in Baghdad last week.

They were planing on voting with IEDs, the terrorists' favorite voting implement.


The Democrats are caught in a bind here ... if they force a pull out, they will be blamed ( quite rightly ) for the bloodbath that follows.

If they don't, the left wing fringe of the party will start calling them names, make a big stink, and interfere with their election funding.

Calhoun said...

Many Iraqis complain of Iranians moving in and voting. The evidence will probably not be examined, though, by Iraq's current government.

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Iraq’s DM: Over a million Shiites entered Iraq from Iran :

Baghdad, Jan. 06 (2005) - Iraq’s Defence Minister Hazem Shaalan scolded Iran on the eve of the meeting by the Foreign Ministers of Iraq’s neighbouring countries in Amman and said that over a million Iranians had entered the country to pose as Iraqis in the upcoming January 30th elections.

“If we go to Basra, we will not hear an Arabic accent, rather we will hear a Farsi accent, and this is also true of Najaf and Al-Kut provinces … This is a sign of significant meddling since it shows how open Iran’s borders are”, he said.

“The number of Shiite Iranians who have entered the country is more than a million”, he said, echoing remarks by Jordan’s King Abdullah II who estimated the same figure in December and said that Tehran is attempting to create a “Shiite Crescent from Iran to Syria and Lebanon”.

“We have intelligence indicating that Iran is sending fake families to Iraq, many of whom are based in Karbala, Najaf, Baghdad, Al-Amara, and Al-Kut; the documents are in our hands”, he added.

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(Then a funny thing happened. Around 1-20-05 Sha'alan said he would arrest Ahmed Chalabi and hand him over to Jordan to be tried for bank fraud. But when the new Shi'ite-controlled government took over, Sha'alan fled to Jordan, and Iraq's government now accuses Sha'alan of $1 billion worth of fraud. So I'm guessing Sha'alan's evidence of voter/identity fraud won't be looked at anytime soon.)

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Iraqi Minister says Iran seeks to rig Iraq elections :

Baghdad, Jan. 20 (2005) – Iraq's Minister for Provincial Affairs accused Iran of spreading its "sphere of influence" throughout Iraq, in preparation for the January 30th elections.

"Many Iranians are producing fake Iraqi identity cards to be able to take part in the elections", Wa'el Abdol-Latif said, speaking to the London-based Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (Middle East) daily yesterday.

In particular Abdol-Latif warned that the Iranian regime was becoming very influential in Basra.

But he also stated that the Iranian regime was not just concentrating its influence in Basra, rather it was "sending surrogates all over Iraq, even reaching Falluja".

Abdol-Latif added that a number of Iraqi political parties were receiving backing from the Iranian regime.

"Due to the security situation and non-existent border controls neighboring countries have been able to spread their domination in Iraq, at the same time supporting certain Iraqi groups", he said.

Bryan Saxton said...

Tim-

Straw man.

Calhoun-

Iran Focus has no sense of credibility and objectivity, which easily brings into question any information they provide.

Kristopher-

"The Democrats are caught in a bind here ... if they force a pull out, they will be blamed ( quite rightly ) for the bloodbath that follows."

This is just a difference of opinion, but I think you are wrong. Democrats will be quick to remind the public of who was responsible for US involvement in Iraq and how they would not have had to make the decision to leave had the president not declared war on Iraq. Blood will be shed in the middle east regardless of whether or not we are involved, and I personally beleive it's best we stage a gradual withdrawal, possibly adhere to the reccomendations of Baker/Hamilton, and have nothing else to do with Iraq, mainly because the number of autrocities that the United States has commited against Iraq is quite high.

Calhoun said...

Bryan Saxton, your remark to me (above) is barely worth replying to, but ... what the hell!

I linked to the two iranfocus.com articles because they were easy to find. The quotes and information in the articles are accurate. The same info can be found in other articles from other sources. (Here's an article on this subject, originally in the LA Times, archived by truthout.org. Leftist enough for you now?)

I followed the two links you embedded, and what did I find?

One link sends us to an article by Nema Milaninia. Who's that? An Iranian blogger. Who doesn't like iranfocus.com. And, so? With apologies to Daniel and Mike Mayhem and everybody, a blogger isn't anyone in particular. Cause anyone can be a blogger. Having a blog doesn't mean you know anything. And it doesn't mean you have any credibility or objectivity.

Your other link sends us to an article from the "SourceWatch" wiki run by the far-left "Center for Media and Democracy". They invite everyone to write stuff : "This site is built by ordinary wise people, like you. You don't need any special credentials to participate -- we shun credentialism along with other propaganda techniques ... So, you can just dive right in and work on any article you like!" (Credibility? Objectivity?) The author of the wiki article against iranfocus.com isn't given -- but i have a hunch it's Nema Milaninia.

So, Bryan, a blogger and an wiki writer say something, and you instantly accept what they say? And then dismiss facts with a wave of your hand? Well then, I'd say your credibility and objectivity are about zero.

Anonymous said...

Who is responsible for US involvement in Iraq: terrorists.

Kaelri said...

We seem to have wandered off the topic a bit.

"Terrorists everywhere thank you for your support Mr. Wu."

Aside from a counterpoint that is crippled by unsubstantiated pathos and oversimplification to the point of falsehood, do you, Daniel, have any specific challenge to Wu's analysis?

Hairy Bob said...

And the families of the more than 3,000 dead American soldiers, and the families of American soldiers yet to be killed, can all thank Daniel Miglavs and those with a similar political bent for providing our criminal president with the fig leaf of public support he has left that enables him to get away with the butchery he's unleashed in a nation we have no business in.

Anonymous said...

Well, Wu certainly knows terrorism. He raped a woman in college and terrorized his ex-wife for their whole marriage.

Calhoun said...

"unsubstantiated pathos"?

Anonymous said...

Daniel, we should all thank Rapist Wu, errr Representative Wu, for his sedition in support of the enemies of the United States. Didn't swear to support and defend the Constitution when he took office?

Kristopher said...

Brian:

You are correct about this being a matter of opinion.

I feel that Democrats will find themselves having to argue both that ending Saddam's reign of terror was not worth the effort, and that they are not responsible for the bloodbath caused when they force a withdrawal by withholding funds.

Good luck with that ... you all will need it.

Kaelri said...

"Didn't swear to support and defend the Constitution when he took office?"

The one that we established to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty?" Yeah, that's the one.

"'unsubstantiated pathos'?"

Daniel was trying to imply that we should be opposed to withdrawing from Iraq because that's what "terrorists everywhere" would want. It's an appeal to people who won't think any deeper than "if it's good for our enemies, then it must be bad for us," which obviously isn't true.

Calhoun said...

Wow!

Kaelri said...

I see.

Anonymous said...

No you don't

Bryan Saxton said...

"One link sends us to an article by Nema Milaninia. Who's that? An Iranian blogger. Who doesn't like iranfocus.com. And, so? With apologies to Daniel and Mike Mayhem and everybody, a blogger isn't anyone in particular. Cause anyone can be a blogger. Having a blog doesn't mean you know anything. And it doesn't mean you have any credibility or objectivity."

Milaninia's persona obviously offers no credibility, but did you think to analyse the arguments that he makes (which involves following the links that back up his arguments)? Did you even bother to read the entry?

"Well then, I'd say your credibility and objectivity are about zero."

Pardon my french, but screw my credibility and objectivity. I think everyone on this blog knows where my feelings lie. I am more interested in the objectivity and credibility of the source you provided. I'll admit, it was a little sloppy of me to post an article from source watch. So what?

The LA Times article at best makes vague inferences to the claims you produce in your argument. The best evidence provided is the statements of a few Iraqi officials, of those who's credibility I'm sure all of us question.

Bryan Saxton said...

Speaking of sloppy... analyse should be analyze, and who's should be whose. Silly me.

nek said...

It is not just the Democrats who support the terrorists. Try Senator Smith and some his other buddies. Hilary is stepping closer and closer every day as America heads toward her third world status.

Calhoun said...

*Sigh*.

Yes, Bryan Saxton, I followed the links, I read the articles, obviously. Milaninia doesn't like iranfocus because he says the site has links to the MKO, which is an organization that opposes the current regime in Iran.

But if disliking the regime in Iran is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

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