From the jacket of a great book I've read recently:We all declare for liberty;but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing.With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor;while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor.Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name--liberty.And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names -- liberty and tyranny.
Great quote, PI. That has to be from Mark Levin's book, "Liberty and Tyranny", right?Definition: Socialist (read Liberal): One who believes in stealing other's property by force of law. Hypocrite (read Liberal): A Socialist who proclaims a belief in fairness.
A conservative will lie through his teeth, and his fellow conservatives won't say a thing about it:http://18.104.22.168/search?q=cache:7AHIYTu3PqYJ:bornagainredneck.blogspot.com/2009/06/walmart-experience.html+%22today+I+made+a+quick+run+to+the+local+WalMart%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=usThis is the cached version, because it appears that Patrick has removed the post, but not said anything about it.
I'm ready Liberty and Tyranny right now as well. Good book.
Interesting. There seem to be no consequences for the COBRA blogger who posted a fabricated story about bad behavior from "a lefty fag blogger who shall remain nameless and linkless."Of course the blogger remained nameless and linkless--he or she didn't exist.And the blogger who posted the fake story, Patrick Joubert Conlon, appears to have received no rebuke from any of his fellow COBRA bloggers.Unbelievable. You folks on the right have absolutely no scruples.
RR,Interesting attempt at digression.1:) It has no bearing upon the original post.2:) You therefore go in and look around and see if you can find something to use in order to distract from the point of the original post.3:) Knowing nothing about Patrick, because you don't actually read his blog, you assume that because he used the word, "fag", he must be a homosexual-basher.Now, how that would enter into a discussion of the original post here is really quite unimagineable. Except, perhaps, in what passes for your own mind.Please do try to stay on-topic; it may be difficult, but just challenge yourself.
Actually, Max, I didn't assume anything about Patrick's use of the word "fag". I've read a bit about his history.My post wasn't about that, it was about his attempt at a broad-brushed smear against liberals that was entirely faked.Note that he removed the post as quietly as possible. Apparently it doesn't bother you that he posted fraudulent information.And it doesn't seem to bother any of his fellow COBRA bloggers. It speaks volumes about your lack of integrity.
Oh, and Max, the original post was about the difference between liberals and conservatives. I was just pointing out is that one difference is that conservatives don't seem to have much integrity.
So, Max, no comment on Patrick Joubert Conlon's faked post that was an attempt to smear liberals?Have you asked Patrick why he removed the post without mentioning it?Doesn't it trouble you that your fellow COBRA member is making fraudulent postings?
RR, what is it with you? Do you really think that you're so important that I should immediately and continually look to see if you've commented recently?You commented at 8:09 and 8:10 a.m., and again at around 2 p.m.Well, RR, here's the deal: it's a Monday, and I have a job. Now, what this means is that I'm at work during that time-frame. This means that I'm not looking at blogs, and I'm not especially concerned with the insecurities of a leftist troll.No matter how you attempt to paint your way out of the corner you've painted yourself into, the fact remains that - lacking any answer to the brief original post, you attempt to distract by bringing in something entirely irrelevant to the original content. It seems to be your trademark.Further, in the course of attempting to distract, you raise unsubstantiated allegations about the author of a post that you could only find by delving into a cache. You then hint darkly that the author removed the original post from his site, yet (gasp!) said nothing about it.It's his site; he is free to add, remove, alter, or redesign - and he doesn't need your permission to do so. If you wish to accuse a blogger of posting "fraudulent information", then by all means, confront that blogger directly.Bringing up your allegations on an entirely different site serves only to illustrate your intent:You've got nothing to offer in regard to the original post on this blog, so you'll try to deflect conversation away in order to trivialize the point.Just to refresh your memory, here is the original post: A conservative will give you the shirt off of his back if he thinks you really need it. A liberal will give you the shirt off of the conservative's back and try to make you think you really need her.You have yet to offer a comment that actually addresses this fundamental truth.You nearly addressed it when at 8:10 a.m. you claimed that conservatives lack integrity.Ted Kennedy.Barney Frank.Nancy Pelosi.Harry Reid.Barak Obama...(I'm going to put everything up on line for five days before a vote).Talk with them, RR...then come back and lecture me about Liberal integrity.
You then hint darkly that the author removed the original post from his site, yet (gasp!) said nothing about it.He removed it because it's fake, and I had posted to that effect on a few local blogs. He must have seen one of those posts and attempted to remove the evidence. How could I tell it's fake? I googled the first phrase of the supposed quote, and the only hits I got were his post and other blogs linking to it.And, by the way, the reason I was asking why you had no comment is that my post about Patrick's fraudulent post went up before you posted the first time. I was just asking why you had no comment about that.And, again, my point stands: "Conservatives" will lie to you and not think twice about it. And will protect their own who lie.And the great thing about blogs is that it has made it visible for all the world to see.
Max,About those allegations. I posted about it in several places, saying that it looked suspicious, considering the google results.Then the post disappeared with no comment, which seems to confirm my suspicions. I would have posted on Patrick's blog, but he's banned me, supposedly for "lying". Like many on the right, he appears to be a coward with a thin skin.
And, again, my point stands: "Conservatives" will lie to you and not think twice about it. And will protect their own who lie.About those allegations. I posted about it in several places, saying that it looked suspicious, considering the google results.Then the post disappeared with no comment, which seems to confirm my suspicions.Dear IP 22.214.171.124 - currently dba "RoadRunner":Your "point" does not stand.You have, as I've noted, merely attempted to hijack another blog thread: No matter how you attempt to paint your way out of the corner you've painted yourself into, the fact remains that - lacking any answer to the brief original post, you attempt to distract by bringing in something entirely irrelevant to the original content.Just to refresh your memory, here is the original post: A conservative will give you the shirt off of his back if he thinks you really need it. A liberal will give you the shirt off of the conservative's back and try to make you think you really need her.You have yet to offer a comment that actually addresses this fundamental truth.If you can't address the topic under discussion, that is your problem. If you have a beef with somebody elsewhere in the blogosphere, nobody cares. That also falls under the heading of "your problem".
Max,Okay, I've got it--this is about made-up differences between conservatives and liberals.How about this: A conservative will give you the shirt off your back and try to stuff it in your mouth in an attempt to silence you.Or this: A conservative will give you the shirt off your back, if you're an Argentine hottie.
Or, how about this:A conservative will make a big deal about the fact that he gave you the shirt off his back, ignoring the fact that he's responsible for your not having any clothes in the first place. He'll then feel very good about himself and how charitable and benevolent he is.Or:A liberal will make sure that you make a decent wage for your work, so you can afford to buy shirts.
RR:How about this:A conservative believes that you should not live in your mom's basement, that you should go forth into the world and work to achieve success.A liberal believes that somebody else owes you.
Max,My mother's cemetery plot does not have a basement.And, unlike you, I will not dishonor her by attempting to attack someone merely because they've pointed out the bad behavior of one of my political allies.You have shown that you have no moral standing. Thank you so much for making it clear to the world.
Still no conservatives willing to call out Patrick for his phony post.Oh, I get it. Lying is okay if it's done by someone on your side.
My mother's cemetery plot does not have a basement.An oversight which can easily be rectified. Keep digging.Still no conservatives willing to call out Patrick for his phony post.On the word of the likes of you? Not.Thus far, all you've done is run around to other blogs and attempt to distract attention from the posted topic by dragging in something else entirely, and making unsubstantiated allegations.
Max,Not on my word. I provided the evidence of his deception.You've chosen to ignore that. Patrick's a liar, and you're an enabler. Lovely.
RR, here is what you provided:The WalMart experience From a lefty fag blogger who shall remain nameless and linkless:Today I made a quick run to the local WalMart, now it is not one of my favorite stores that is for sure. Though the prices are hard to beat and any type of savings in this day and age comes in handy to say the very least. So I picked up a bag of corn chips, bread and a gallon of milk which was pretty much all of the money I had to my name. Now the real reason for this post was to talk about the human experience that is WalMart! What is that you might be asking yourself. Well to me it was the over weight white woman complete with numerous tattoos and who was wearing a tube top! Wait there is more, wearing a tube top complete with a bra! I kid you not, now common sense or your close gay male friend would be quick to tell you that if you need a bra to go out of the house, then a tube top is not your friend.Was she riding one of those electric wheelchairs that WalMart provides for its obese customers?You claim that somehow this is all a lie, and that people who don't "call out" the blogger are somehow "enablers".You apparently feel that this is such an important issue that you should run around and attempt to hijack blog threads elsewhere in a weird effort to "motivate" folks to charge in with torches and pitchforks.As you appear to feel strongly about your issue, I suggest that you start your own blog.I'm sure that you'll gain a strong following among other loons.
You claim that somehow this is all a lie, and that people who don't "call out" the blogger are somehow "enablers".I claim it is a lie, because when I googled the first phrase, the only hits I got were Patrick's post and other posts linking to it. Then, the next day, after I called him out on it on some other blogs, he removed the post without comment.Your response is the equivalent to saying to those who complained about Dan Rather "If you don't like what he did, start your own network."If bloggers are going to lie, they shouldn't whine when it's pointed out, and their friends shouldn't whine, either.Grow up.
RR -Yes, it might be difficult to start your own network, but starting a blog is easy and free, in most cases.Don't be shy, sonny-boy. Grow up yourself. Grow a pair and quit wasting people's time with your endless trolling.Although it must be said that your current preoccupation is telling. You clearly have so much time on your hands that you can devote much of it to trolling.Grow up, grow a pair, and start your own blog.You can't do that.Nobody would visit.And you know it.
Max,You're the one with the odd obsession--roaming the internet, relentlessly attacking someone who had the temerity to point out the fraudulent post of one of your fellow bloggers.Interesting that you keep attempting to cast me as the villain, and not the one who posted the fraud.
Little Runner,You're wrong on every count, of course.You're the one with the odd obsession--roaming the internet, relentlessly attacking someone who had the temerity to point out the fraudulent post of one of your fellow bloggers.I've followed this and other blogs for several years, and unlike you, I run a blog as well - one which is generally ranked among the top 10 in Oregon by the BNN ranking sevice.So, yes, I roam the Internet in a limited manner.What I do not do is attempt to hijack the threads of the bloggers I follow. Unlike you.Your "relentless attack" line is laughable. I merely present you with opportunities to express your innate behavior. As you appear to have the cognitive processing skills of a lemur, you jump on them every time, which effectively serves to illustrate to the world at large that you possess perhaps three neurons: one for eating, one for defecating, and one for feigned outrage."Relentless attack"? You pretend to importance that you lack.
Max,I was unable to post on Patrick's blog. It seemed appropriate to post of his fraudulent posting on allied blogs. It's telling that no a single one has chosen to hold him accountable.And, again, you keep attacking me, but you haven't addressed Patrick's behavior. In order for Patrick's post not to be fraudulent, somehow the blog that he quoted from would be invisible to search engines. Of course, when I raised questions about his post, Patrick could have then linked to the original. If, of course, it existed. Ah, but that would have destroyed Patrick's little "who shall remain nameless and linkless" charade.
Oh, and just so you know, I have screenshots.So Patrick can attempt to sue to his heart's content. I have the evidence of his fraudulent post.It'd be a hassle, but I'm sure I could put the money I'd win in a counter suit to good use.
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