Sunday, September 07, 2008

And Obama says ICE officials are bad

Mexican official: Oregon man drowned in own blood
A Mexican prosecutor says an Oregon tourist drowned in his own blood while in police custody.

Sam Botner of Yancalla, Oregon, was arrested on Aug. 27 in the resort of San Jose del Cabo and was later found dead in a jail cell. Prosecutors say a surveillance video shows officers beating Botner.

But the Mexicans (and Obama) in the United States are constantly fretting that ICE officials are "terrorizing" the criminal aliens who have broken into our country.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is really, really bad and I hope the officers who are responsible are punished to the full extent of the law.

FYI -- 71 Mexican nationals, both legal and illegal, have died in custody in US jails since 2006.

Anonymous said...

As someone who's been behind bars before, Daniel, you don't seem to have a flying fuck of an idea of what really goes on behind them if you're there long enough. I gather you weren't there long enough.

Anonymous said...

It's too bad this guy made the wrong choice to attack someone with a knife while in a foreign country, especially one as corrupt as Mexico. He wouldn't have been hauled off to a Mexican jail. His disrespect for the law cost him his life. At any rate, I hope he made peace with his maker as his life slipped away and that he rests in peace. In addition, I hope the evil jackals who did this to him are punished and burn in hell.

Anonymous said...

This fellow may have done something wrong, but you don't even have to commit a crime to get into big trouble in Mexico. Just say something politically incorrect, or even just turn away from some local big shots who want to force you to listen to some extreme BS (being a med student in Guadalajara and not showing up at mandatory extracurricular lectures that sound like something out of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" comes to mind), and you too can end up in jail and be lucky to survive the experience. (One med student down there had to get his dad to cough up $30K, plus the price of the unrestricted 1-way
ticket to get him out. Oh, and they confiscated all his personal property and cash. By the way, he did NOT do drugs and had never been in trouble before.) Go to Mexico at your own risk, me hearties!

Anthony DeLucca said...

Anon 12:30

Of the 71 deaths in US Prisons that you speak of, how many were beat to death by the Police?

How many died by suicide?

How many were killed by other prisoners?

How many died of overdose?

Anonymous said...

Anthony "Look it up for yourself"
Delucca:

As you have so often told other commenters: Look it up for yourself. I did.

Anonymous said...

Oh...and you forgot one category, perhaps on purpose, perhaps not:

How many were beaten to death by American cops.

Anonymous said...

Anthony, you'll find the answers to all your questions and more in your very own "FBI/INS Statistical Report."

Anonymous said...

Boohooo! Why was the American down in Cabo raisin' hell drunk starting fights? As usual, Americans go to another country thinking the own it and cause trouble.

Brad Rydman said...

It's really pathetic that so many posts are authored by 'anonymous' posters. One would think that anyone that took the time to post their opinion, however asinine and misguided, would at least sign their name to it. Evidently they don't seem to mind that anyone reading their "anonymous" posts are likely to dismiss them as either being inconsequential, chickenshit, or both. IMHO, that's pathetic. Especially since anon@7:00's post was uncharacteristically coherent and well-written. Not like the usual petty, adolescent, and frequently hate-filled 'anonymous' posts.....

Anonymous said...

Best to remain Anonymous on this blog what with all the Aryans, psychos, pedophiles, thugs and gang bangers that frequent here, right Daniel?

Gumby said...

One can remain anonymous on this blog and simply use a blog name. At least that way, people can respond to a commenter without having to guess whether it's the same anon as another anon.

Using "anonymous" is pure laziness and cowardice.

Anthony DeLucca said...

Anon 9:45

No, I didn't forget. Re-read my original comments.

Anthony DeLucca said...

Anon 9:45

No, I didn't forget. Re-read my original comments.

stupid is as stupid does said...

its just eaiser to hit the anon box !!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

anon...12:30
How did those 71 die? Are you trying to imply that they were beaten to death by American prison guards???

How many died from gang violence in prison?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Dean Edell was just talking about this on the Radio, many Die from Cocaine or Meth and the stress of being held by police and this combo puts a huge quantity of adrenlin into your heart.

Gumby said...

anon 10:05,

If you don't mind being lumped in with all the other anonymous posters who also are too lazy to simply type a name into the yellow box, that's fine.

The thing is, so many anonymous posters say such stupid things here, it paints every one of you with the same broad brush.

Take anon 2:37 for example. What a dumbshit.

But, enjoy your image, you've earned it with your laziness.

DAVE01 said...

Anon 12:30
71 mexicans have died since 2006, wow! I ask you how many Americans have been killed by mexicans since 2006 in the US? I'm sure it's in the hundreds if not the thousands. Let's look at this for a moment. I was going to go after something else. But, I thought, let's make a rough calculation of a number. 25 people are murdered and killed by criminal aliens everyday in the US. Almost half of criminal aliens in this country are mexicans.

25 (killed and murdered)times 365 times two (almost been two years)equals 18250 divided by two (mexicans are about half of the criminal aliens) equals 9125. What a wonderful people, the mexicans. They have killed by drunk driving and murdered over NINE THOUSAND AMERICANS. I can't believe we have not finished the American-mexican war. It's time to annex the rest of mexico.

I guess if one of the nine thousand victims of the mexicans is not a family or friends of yours, you don't give a damn.

Tell me I'm a racist now assholes.

Anon 6:33 pm
"His disrespect for the law cost him his life. "

Here, disrespect by the mexicans for our laws costs Americans lives.

WHAT IDIOTS GOES TO MEXICO THESE DAYS? YOU ARE JUST ASKING FOR TROUBLE.

BUILD THAT DAMN WALL NOW AND DEPORT BY FORCE ALL THE CRIMINAL ALIENS. WE THE PEOPLE CAN START ROUNDING THEM UP.

DON'T FORGET THE TEN CHILDREN PER DAY BEING RAPED. ALL ILLEGALS NEED TO BE ROUNDED UP AND SHIPPED HOME BY TRAIN. STICK THEM IN CATTLE CARS, THEY GOT HERE THAT WAY, THEY CAN GO HOME THAT WAY. CONFISCATE ALL THEIR BELONGINGS AND SEND THEIR HOME COUNTRIES THE TAB FOR ANY AND ALL DAMAGED THEY CAUSED WHILE HERE!

Joe Jericho said...

Who gives a fuck if someone posts anonymously? It doesn't make any fucking difference one way or another. Opinions are like assholes and everyone has got one. Get over yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Hey, dave, you fag, moral equivalency is for fucking losers. I guess you don't give a fuck about the Mexican cops killing this Oregonian, do you? But if the Podunkland cops had killed him, you'd be out there torching the fucking city, wouldn't you? You are just a fucking assbrain. Go suck an AIDS-infected cock already, you fucking fag.

Maliengus said...

Once again, per usual, the foamers extrapolate that pointing out both sides have moral "issues" and neither has the high ground is transalated as favoring illegal immigration and glossing over crimes commited by illegals. Good God people, are your minds so fricking small that you can't ponder both sides of the issue at the same time and apply a little perspective to your view of the world you live in? How pathetic. Some of you people obviously are down to your last two brain cells and it's obvious that even those two can't function long enough to put political agendas aside and see things for what they are:

Botner fucked up by breaking the law in a foreign country known to be lawless and he paid for it with his life. May he rest in peace.

Period.

Anonymous said...

Dave -- hey, idiot, Anon 12:30 was talking about Mexicans in US custody only. If you are to include Mexicans killed in the course of crime perpetrated by US citizens or other means, the number is astronomically higher than 71.

DAVE01 said...

Anon 4:47 PM. I know that knucklehead. I'm pointing out that there is no reason to go to mexico to get killed, you can be killed right here by mexicans.

We have 34 thousand mexicans in our federal prison. Untold many tens of thousands in our local jail. Why don't you find out how many Americans are in mexican jails. Probably a few dozen or hundred. Then we can find out if more Americans or mexicans are being killed by the percentages. I doubt many mexicans are killed by the police or guards. I'm sure most them killed in jail or prison are killed by other inmates.

Hell, after we deport all the criminal aliens and build the wall, we can send our prisoners down to mexico. Why don't we just make portions of mexico our new prison system. It is cheaper down there.

Anonymous said...

That's actually a good idea. Pay the mexicans a peso a day to house our non-Mexican prisoners. lol