Monday, November 19, 2007

Nursery Association cries about secure licenses

From CAUSAblog
“Creating a national, universal identification system through the driver’s license program is fundamentally flawed,” said John Aguirre, Executive Director of the Oregon Association of Nurseries. “The governor’s order creates more problems than it solves. We have to make sure our work force can get to work.”

It's "flawed" huh John? I guess that you will get to the details of these "flaws" at a later time. And your work force can get to work as long as they are legal workers John. If illegal aliens are making it to work then they are just breaking more laws. You don't want that do you John? Do you?

Listening to the other side tie themselves in knots trying to talk about his issue would be funny if it was so serious. I think that the OAN should be ashamed of itself and Republicans should politely show their lobbyists the door.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am sorry to say that his workers will get to work using the driving privilege card that the governor is pushing.

Jack Van Nostrand
Troutdale

Jim in KFalls said...

Let them take the bus...or a taxi...or better yet ride a bike!

Scottiebill said...

It's too bad the people of Oregon can't boycott those nurseries who are part of the ONA to let the powers-that-be of that organization that we don't approve of their stance toward hiring illegals. But it ain't gonna happen.

Anonymous said...

So pulling licenses from people is safe? Idiot, wake up. I know you are going to say that "illegal aliens don't get licenses anyways". So if they don't, why would it matter if the governor allows them or not? Next, taking licenses away from those that do have them and drive is a danger to the highways. You think that they are actually gonna quite driving because they can't get licenses?

Boy 'o boy, I wonder how much the bounty went up on documents. I bet some American citizens are going to make some pretty good money selling peoples personal information. When they get yours, just say thanks to Sleepy Ted and Dimball Jim Ludwig and his Oregonians against Immigrants.

eddie said...

Wow... just... wow.

A driver is either a hazard or not. The only control a license gives is that by taking it away they're not supposed to drive. However, if they drive anyway... then zero change has occurred. Having or not having a license on your person makes absolutely no difference to how safe you are.

It just happens that a lot of folks who are hazardous drivers, don't have licenses... taking a license away doesn't turn someone into a hazard.

Unless... it's a maaaaagic license. Is that it? Is it a maaaaagic license?

Bobkatt said...

One major concern is the new requirement for DMV to verify social security numbers for every person who applies for or renews a license. The current online verification system is so flawed that the state of Illinois banned all businesses from utilizing the system to conduct I-9 checks for new employees.

It would appear that the only flaw they are concerned about is the fact that the system works too good.

May I suggest that we call Elizabeth Peters, OAN Director of Communications at 503-250-2235, or email her at epeters@oan.org to convey our concerns about their constant obstruction to reign in this illegal invasion.

Anonymous said...

So he is upset that his publicly subsidized illegal work force will not be able to drive to their jobs so that they can illegally work in the United States? Ok.....makes sense to me.

Anonymous said...

More anti-immigrant hatred from Miglavia. In Miglavia, unsafe roads are the American Way. In Miglavia, immigrants are evil. In Miglavia, hard working families are criminals and terrorists.

Anonymous said...

I know a guy who has been a policeman for 20+ years. He says at any given time, 30% of the people on the road are driving with a suspended license, expired license, no license at all, and/or no insurance. He didn't say they were Hispanic or not, he just said "everybody." Oregon needs to require insurance companies to notify Motor Vehicles Dept. when auto insurance has been allowed to lapse and then suspend the license of said driver.
As far as nurseries go, if Anglos applied for the jobs, they would be hired. You can bitch and moan all you want, the fact is, Anglos don't show up to apply. I know, I worked in Oregon's nursery industry for 20 years. Bitch and moan all you want, the frickin' fact is, whether you like it or not, Anglos just don't show up to apply for these jobs even though they are advertised in the papers and a decent wage. Just because you say it's so, doesn't make it true. Not only do they not show up, but when they do, they get hired at a decent wage & benefits, and then quit within 3 months. Whine all you want, the truth is still the truth.

Anonymous said...

And for all you who are going to bitch and moan about my "Anonymous" post, this is Moondoggie.

Hubble said...

I can honestly say I wouldn't do the jobs that these illegal immigrants do. And I know for a fact that many other american citizens wouldn't either. Having worked in the farming business for a good many years before retiring, and barring the issue of citizenship, I can tell you that "anglos" (as Moondogie calls them) don't work as hard as immigrants from Mexico, Central or Latin America. Beside the fact that "anglos" don't want to do the work, those few oddballs that do, can't compete with the hardworking immigrants.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I just don't know what else to call us without getting bashed. Whites? No...it just came to me. Americans-of-other-than-Hispanic decent, because there are plenty of Hispanic-Americans who were born here or who became citizens who work in the nurseries and make a career of it. Most Americans-of-other-than-Hispanic decent don't last very long -- a few months tops. I speak from experience.

Moondoggie.

Anthony "Not Tony" DeLucca said...

Anon 12:24

Again...you left out the word "Illegal". It's anti ILLEGAL immigrant crowd. I've got nothing against immigrants. The problem I have is with ILLEGAL immigration. Get it right jackass or shut up.

(now all of you idiots can start calling me a "Racist", "Natavist", or some other slanderous term to shift the debate from immigration, to racism.) READY? GO!

Anthony "I am a racist, nativist and anti-immigrants scum bag" Delucca said...

More fitting, don't you think?

Anonymous said...

I agree. Fuck OAN. They care more about themselves. Time to fine those bitches for hiring illegal aliens. Assholes.

Anonymous said...

Go work for them and bring some of your friends, and then those friends can bring some of their friends. Like I said, I worked in the nursery industry for over 20 years. We had ads in the paper, at the employment office, ads on the radio, on-line, you name it. None of you guys showed up. If enough American citizens go work for them they won't be forced to hire illegal aliens. And Anthony, I am not a jack-ass. I thought the "right" was above name calling. Remember those debate tactics you posted a few weeks ago?

BEAR said...

To those who haven't been paying attention....we already have a national I.D.....it's called a PASSPORT! Try getting one without proper documentation. I say, no passport, no vote. No passport, no job. No passport, no ODL. No passport, no school. No passport, no health care. No passport, no Social Security. No passport, no welfare. No passport, go back to your nation of legal citizenship. No exceptions.

Anonymous said...

The reason anglos wont do the work is cuz you pay shit-ass wages and make us work with people who don't even speak the fucking language of our country. That sounds like a great job placement ad, here is what it would seem to read to me.

Whites Watned!!!
Work for 10 hours, miles from civilization for shitty pay! English optional, so have fun having no workplace cohesion (unless you're mexican). Also, pay raises not included, you'll be fired so we can hire an illegal at min. wage again!

The Great Wise One said...

The reason why citizens are not willing to work at the nurseries is because the jobs do not pay enough. It is simple economics of supply and demand. For the ignorant and simple minded, here is a quick lesson for you. Are you ready?...Economics 101. Human Resources are just like any other commodity. Wages are dictated by the economic laws of supply and demand. When the supply of laborers increases and demand remains the same, wages go down. This is the case of the nursery industry. There is a large supply of cheap illegal alien labor that is willing to work for low wages and no benefits, thereby driving down wages in the nursery industry to a level lower than they otherwise would be. To suggest that "white" people are not willing to work hard or are not able to work as hard as hispanics is a bunch of crap. Just because you are lazy doesn't mean other citizens or "white" people are.

antiklan said...

I picked berries in Irrigon for a couple seasons and the immigrants from Mexico smoked both me and the other whities. Farms have to think about profit, too. It isn't just shysters like Fast Tony Delucca selling those lemon cars to east county inbreds. These are business people with real lives. If you have a buch of white trash loafers on a line or row doddling and taking smoke breaks it cuts into your profit. Maybe Americans, much like John Aguirre pointed out today, had a better work ethic, the Indians (India), Japanese, Chinese and Mexican Immigrants wouldn't be taking ALL the jobs and kicking our asses.

Anonymous said...

So, some of you guys say that breaking the law is part of marketplace business? Who gives a fuck if the Mexican can pick quicker than your white lilly ass. Of course he can, he has lots of experience. In time, you will too. If the Mexican is legal, then he has an advantage over you in this particular workplace. That's free enterprise. No problem. Breaking the law is not a component of free enterprise in this country, or at least it shouldn't be. When companies fuck up and break environmental rules, you lefties are all over them like flies on shit, yet when they hire illegal human capital, it's ok? "No human being is illegal?" Which is it, you dumbasses?