Saturday, August 25, 2007

Who said it?

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance."
A) Modern leftist
B) Adolf Hitler

"Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless."
A) Vladimir Ilich Lenin
B) The Brady Campaign (formerly known as Handgun Control, Inc)

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."
A) Hillary Clinton
B) Fidel Castro

“All systems are capitalist. It's just a matter of who owns and controls the capital -- ancient king, dictator, or private individual. We should properly be looking at the contrast between a free market system where individuals have the right to live like kings if they have the ability to earn that right and government control of the market system such as we find today in socialist nations.”
A) George W. Bush
B) Ronald Reagan


Anonymous said...

Alas, even with Totem Poles some are on top and others are stuck in the mud.

Anonymous said...

Who said it:

Protecting Our Families …
because we respect the family’s role as a touchstone of stability and strength in an everchanging

B) Republican Party

Republican Family Values at work:

• Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
• Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
• Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
• Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
• Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
• Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
• Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
• Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
• Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
• Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
• Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
• Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
• Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
• Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
• Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
• Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
• Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
• Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
• Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
• Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
• Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
• Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
• Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
• Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
• Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
• Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
• Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
• Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
• Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
• Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
• Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
• Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
• Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
• Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
• Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
• Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
• Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
• Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
• Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
• Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
• Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
• Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
• Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
• Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
• Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
• Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
• Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
• Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
• Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
• Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
• Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
• Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
• Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
• Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
• Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
• Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
• Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
• Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
• Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
• Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Calhoun said...

^^^ Yawn.

MAX Redline said...

Anony Mouse 184135358278620055

Apparently you're unable to come up with anything of significance to add to any conversation, as you persist in posting the exact same diatribe wherever you go - you're rather like a dog that's never been trained not to defecate and urinate on the carpeting.

Anonymous said...

Annon @11:33
May I put this as simply as possible for you? (and I'll type it slowly so you'll understand)

F-U-C-K O-F-F A-N-D D-I-E !

That is all.

Amish Abe said...

Ha ha. Nice slam to the pedophile GOP apoligists Anonymous11:33

Amish Abe said...

It appears Anonymous12:30PM wasn't able to have his daily child today. Hey anon12:33, what's wrong, your kid away at camp?

Anonymous said...

ugh I hate to say it but Daniel?? I think its time to start screening comments. The same tired shit every thread is really getting old.

Calhoun said...

amish abe, you're a liar. No one here is an apologist for pedophiles.

No Guns for the GOP said...

"Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless."

If that is leaving the pedophiles, which are usually the Republicans screaming about it, defenseless, I am all 4 it. No Guns 4 Pedophile Republicans!!!

Troutdale Councilor Canfield said...

Neil Goldschmidt. Protecting our families.

daniel's idiot clone said...

It used to be illegal for women to vote, and as a "rule of law" sort of guy, I say that we bar women from voting. Allowing women to vote simply rewarded the criminals. Why should we have allowed them to vote just because they demanded their "rights"? They didn't have the "right" to vote in the first place! That's why it was legal for only men to vote.

I will not rest until women who vote are treated like the criminals that they are.

Anonymous said...

I wasn't going to post this, but what the hell...

On June 11, 1976, Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, was reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

On June 13, 1976, Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.

On Aug. 8, 1980, during his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

On Oct. 3, 1980, Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Studds had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male in 1973. He admitted the charges that same day, and acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand him, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that he should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure him, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Studds refused to apologize. Voters in Studds's liberal district were forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.

In August 1987, two former Konnyu aides complained to the San Jose Mercury News that the freshman Republican had sexually harassed them. GOP leaders were unhappy with Konnyu's temperament to begin with, so it took little effort to find candidates who would take him on in the primary. Stanford professor Tom Campbell ousted Konnyu the following June.

On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

In response to a story in the Aug. 25, 1989, Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.

Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.

Anonymous said...

Here is the latest on a pro-family, pro-children anti-pedophil pedophile Republican continue to hide his little dirty dealings with the children:

Foley Won't Let Investigators Examine His House Computer

August 23, 2007

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Neither former U.S. Representative Mark Foley nor the House will let investigators with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement examine his congressional computers.

Florida's top police agency said that's hindering its investigation into Foley's lurid Internet communications with teenage boys.

The department hopes to conclude its investigation next week. Foley, a Florida Republican, resigned from Congress in September after being confronted with the computer messages he sent to male teenage pages who had worked on Capitol Hill.

Anonymous said...

Hey Robert Canfield,

Where is your pedophile pal Lou Beres hanging out these days? I heard you and he were quite close. Republicans they are as thick as thieves. Or is that as thick as pedophiles?

Calhoun said...

Again, take note : the pro-illegal alien crowd can no longer debate the issue. Their agenda has failed. They have been trounced. Soundly.

the bullshit police said...

The pro-illegal alien crowd can no longer debate the issue.

Look at the above sentence. Only 11 words. And yet, so much bullshit:

Let us count the ways:

1) "Pro-illegal." The implication is that anyone who takes the concept of "inalienable rights" seriously also supports unlawful activity. I'd elaborate, but I fear explaining the problem with this would only confuse the Miglavians.

2) "Alien." Yes, I know the term has a legal meaning in American law. But it also serves a dual function: To marginalize those who are different, to dehumanize them. They are not human beings. They are "aliens," and thus, worthy of whatever bile you can dish out.

3) ... "crowd" ... I don't think that a "crowd" is posting the list of Republican pedophiles. Although it's an anonymous poster, I suspect that it's probably ... let's see ...maybe ONE person. Possibly two. That does not constitute a "crowd."

4) "Can no longer debate the issue." Ah, so you're both debater AND debate moderator? A novel concept.

We could keep going:

5) "Their agenda has failed."

Really? Let's see: You've held the presidency for nearly eight years, Congress for most of that time; you dominate the Supreme Court and the media. Also, to hear you assholes tell it, American public opinion is overwhelmingly on your side. In other words, you've got all the cards. A royal flush.

Insofar as your agenda is concerned, how's it working out? Why is the pile of chips still in the middle of the table, so close within your grasp, and yet ... out of reach?

Anonymous said...

To bad Anonymous 11:33 AM can't cut and paste some gray matter between it's ears!

Calhoun said...

You're a liar :
"The implication is that anyone who takes the concept of "inalienable rights" seriously also supports unlawful activity."

You're a liar :
"They are not human beings. They are "aliens," and thus, worthy of whatever bile you can dish out."

I don't care :
"I suspect that it's probably ... let's see ...maybe ONE person. Possibly two. That does not constitute a "crowd." "

And your post proves it :
"Can no longer debate the issue."

You're a liar and a dumbshit :
"Ah, so you're both debater AND debate moderator? A novel concept."

You're a liar :
"You've held the presidency for nearly eight years, Congress for most of that time; you dominate the Supreme Court" (No, dumbshit, it's the pro-amnesty, pro-illegal alien crowd who has done that.)

A bit of truth escaped your lying hole :
"American public opinion is overwhelmingly on your side."

I would ask illegal aliens and their pals this question :
"Why is the pile of chips still in the middle of the table, so close within your grasp, and yet ... out of reach?"

And the answer is, because Americans aren't going to fawn upon you crooks, or be ruled over by you.

Anonymous said...

Calhoun deserves congtratulations for letting a little honesty slip out of his otherwise incomprehensible response. When the Bigotry police pointed out the obvious fact that the "aliens" they enjoy disparaging are human beings, Calhoun accused him of being a "liar."

So: Thank you, Calhoun, for at least being open and honest about your bigotry. Daniel Miglavs, pussy that he is, still operates under the illusion that he's not racist.

Anonymous said...

Heh anon 12:52. You called daniel a racist. Yet I dont see him posting here, and really isn't the racist argument getting a little tired? It's really the only thing that someone who doesn't care about their quality of life or their taxes being wasted on people who deserve nothing human or not, can say. BIG PICTURE.....Imagine after things change how much better your kids school will be, how much safer our streets will be, our elderly will have the health care they need, and you and I will have the jobs we want. BIG PICTURE

Calhoun said...

When the Bigotry police pointed out the obvious fact that the "aliens" they enjoy disparaging are human beings, Calhoun accused him of being a "liar."

So funny to see your total devotion to falsehood, and to see it so blatantly displayed.

Learn to read, idiot. "the bullshit police" said : "They are not human beings. They are "aliens," ... etc."

NOT. You understand the word? NOT. Try if you don't. He said they're NOT human beings.

But "the bullshit police" was trying to say it was my/our opinion, that illegal aliens aren't human beings. And that's a lie. I don't think that. And I've never heard anyone say that.

But they are criminals. So are we disparaging the criminals when we point out that they're breaking the law? Awww ....

Anonymous said...

Imagine after things change how much better your kids school will be, how much safer our streets will be, our elderly will have the health care they need, and you and I will have the jobs we want.

To the list of characteristics of the typical Miglavian -- bigoted, reactionary, etc. -- we obviously need to add another: Extreme naivete.

The Miglavian apparently believes that if ONLY we can just clear our home of those mean, nasty, dirty "aliens," then our schools will be better, streets will be safer, the elderly will get the health care they need, and we'll all have the jobs we want.

Peaches 'n cream! Peaches 'n cream for all!

Please excuse me for a while. I plan to spend the next couple of hours laughing my ass off.

Calhoun said...

"Reactionary"? Da, tovarisch, da, whatever you say. Those durned Miglavians need to be sent to a Thought Reform Camp, where they will adopt the correct line of thinking.

Anthony "Feel the Love" DeLucca said...

OK, that's it. You gutless ANON posters, along with knuckleheads like Thought Police (Catchy Name....did you think of that all by yourself, or did your Special Ed teacher help you.), and the other sheep who would rather resort to the Pedophile List rather than argue their position on the original post, have finally destroyed yourselves.

You have shown your true colors (mostly yellow, and a little Commie red thrown in for warmth) to the folks that rread this blog. I have no doubt that you are the same sheep that believe everything the Left throws at you, as if it were the un-deniable truth. I really feel quite sorry for you folks who are easily duped into believing silly stories like "Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children...", and other non-sense.

On top of that, your morally superior attitude is quite laughable. But, I'll keep returning to this blog because I like to get my daily laugh at your expense. You folks really need help. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm all for listening to opposing viewpoints when they are sensible. I've switched sides on several issues, but they were presented to me in a logical, thought out and well documented manner.

The order of the day here is simply to call Republicans Pedophiles, and anyone who argues to the contrary, is called a "Pedophile Apologist". Your cause is REALLY going to advance with the "Hurl Names At Them" strategy.

You guys show that you are weak when you make statements like "People who want the borders enforced are simply a bunch of red neck racists" and "If you are against illegal immigration, you're a racist", and finaly my personal favorite "Republicans are a bunch of rich white men who are in it for the money". That last one I read on a lefty blog just last week. I laughed for hours.

So, good luck to all of you hopeless cowards who can't generate a meaningful piece of diologue.

I have one last parting thought for you: Your Democratic Congress has the lowest approval rating ever in the history of these United States. 18%. That's lower than the Presidents approval rating, and you guys trounce him on the air, in print, and on T.V. EVERY DAY.


DeLucca's favorite gutless Anon said...

The order of the day here is simply to call Republicans Pedophiles ..

Uh, no DeLucca. You're wrong there. The order of the day in Miglavia is to simply call all undocumented workers murderers, drunk drivers and rapists. Get it straight, man.

"... your morally superior attitude is quite laughable. But, I'll keep returning to this blog because I like to get my daily laugh at your expense. You folks really need help.

Back at you, asswipe.

Anthony DeLucca said...

Dear "Gutless Anon"

You've just made my point. You haven't done your homework and made yourself look like an ass.

I can back my post up with at least a dozen anon. posts on this site verifying what I said. Daily posts of the "Republican Pedo List", etc.. Can you do the same with what you've just posted?

Nope. Wanna know why?

A.) 'Miglavians" as you call them would NEVER call an Illegal Alien an "Un-Documented Worker". That's a lefty P.C. term, while Illegal Alien is a legal term. (Please take note of the ILLEGAL part)

B.) Rapists and Murderers are called what they are....Rapists and murderers. I've never seen an instance on this blog where all Illegal Aliens are called rapists, Murderers, and Drunk Drivers. While a dis-proportinate amout of the known Illegal Alien population have commited these crimes, (I have the stats to back-up this claim if you really want to see them),I don't think that I have seen one serious post saying that all Illegal Aliens are Rapists, murderers, etc.. Especially on a daily basis as you claim.

As a matter of fact, the only "Pedophile Apologist" I've read about on this site (and several others) was the former MEXICAN CONSULATE to Portland who said that "Sex with underage girls is a cultural mis-understanding".

Now, read your post, and THINK about your post. Is it fact? Or do you just think that it is?

But don't worry anon., I still love ya.

the gutless anon said...

Mr. DeLucca: If the 12 million undocumented workers in this country were white, from Canada, and spoke English, Daniel Miglavs would be blogging about something else (my guess is that he'd opt for the "homosexual conspiracy") and you and I would certainly not be having this exchange. You know it, and I know it, so spare me the sensation of blowing any more smoke up my ass.

Anthony DeLucca said...

No...I Don't know it. And neither do you. It's pure speculation on your part. That's the huge flaw in your arguments. You speculate too damn much without any evidence to back it up.

If you've read this blog for awhile, you'd know that the mention of Illegal Immigrants from China, Russia, Ukraine, and elsewhere are mentioned quite often. However, even a narrow minded knothead like you can figure out that a vast majority of the illegal immigration into the United States comes accross our Southern Border. Now, just by looking around your own State, and by viewing news footage of Pro-Illegal Immigration marches, you can certainly say without a shadow of a doubt that the illegal imigration problem comes from Mexico, Central, and to some extent, South America. That's fact, not speculation.

If anything is being blown up your ass, that's your business. What you do in the privacy of your bedroom is non of my concern.

You obviously don't have the brains to present a valid rebuttal to anything I said in my previous post. You just went ahead and made accusations of racism right off the bat. Typical of a gutless anon poster.

R Huse said...

"Mr. DeLucca: If the 12 million undocumented workers in this country were white, from Canada, and spoke English, Daniel Miglavs would be blogging about something else "

Obviously this person is not acquainted with the warm welcome the Irish received here a few years back.

On the Illegal Alien terminology:

Rape lets change that to "uninvited love making"

Child Molesting, lets change to "age inappropriate intercourse"

The idiocy of changing the terms used for criminals so as not to be offensive to them....amazing.

Look - I've been saying it for a while now, but people like BS Police don't give a rip about the illegals, they just crave that feeling of moral superiority they gain by calling others racist. That's all it is about for them. You simply cant argue with someone who thinks that as a liberal, they are incapable of racism and thus entitled to hurl the accusation at anyone, no matter how ludicrous the situation, with impunity. Invective, emotion, feelings and rage, these are the tools of their argument, thus neither facts nor reason will sway them.

A real socialist said...

Hitler's claim to represent true socialist ideals and practices has roughly the same credibility as David Koresh's claim that he was a modern-day incarnation of Cyrus the Great.

Accepting a sociopath's claim at face value is what happens when a reactionary and uneducated man like Daniel Miglavs gets a whiff of history and then "muses" his way into the realm of sheer fantasy.

R Huse said...

Well, considering that the Nazi's were in fact the National Socialist Party

And considering that Fascism in its day was widely considered the middle way between communism and laissez faire capitalism

And considering that Hitler did in fact institute a fairly complete model of the Fascist economic system - state control of the economy through private and semi private corporations - that while not communism, is in fact closer to socialism than anything else. It is also important to remember that in the Nazi's ascendancy, Fascism was widely accepted as a completely valid economic system. George Bernard Shaw widely encouraged his fellow socialists to embrace Fascism as the wave of the future.

It hardly seems a leap then to consider that Hitler did in fact represent what he claimed, a version of Socialism, Fascism, which obviously he considered true Socialism.

Im not exactly sure why this would be in question? Hitler was a horrible person to be sure, but to claim he was not involved in another incarnation of Socialism is a little batty.

Pol Pot, Castro, Guevara, Mao, all horrible and arguably insane people. Is anyone going to argue that they were not Socialists on one level or another because of their loathsome qualities?

This is not a close call.

Anthony DeLucca said...

Dear Pedo List Poster:

1) The ACLU supports NAMBLA's (the North American Man / Boy Love Association) right to free speech,(The ACLU Defended NAMBLA in a lawsuit pro bono) even when it has been proven in court that said free speech has facilitated in the sexual exploitation, and sexual molestation of children. (NAMBLA's website details how to avoid detection when commiting sex crimes against minors)

2) The ACLU was a MAJOR campaign contributor to Nancy Pelosi, and supports her stands on a variety of issues.

3) Nancy Pelosi has expressed her support of the ACLU, calling it an "Organization that keeps Americans Free from Gov't Intrusion"

Having read the above, would it be a fair assumption that Nancy Pelosi supports NAMBLA and the right of Men to have intercourse with underaged boys?

Sounds silly when it is put into perspective huh? I could run around all day to the lefty blogs saying that all Democrats support NAMBLA, and therefore all Democrats were Child Molestor Apologists.

But that would be silly and simply disingenuous wouldn't it?

the socialist said...

Rhuse’s assessment of National Socialism is uninformed and patently ridiculous. By his logic, we must assume that Koresh was, in fact, a modern-day incarnation of Cyrus the Great. After all, that’s what Koresh claimed, so if he said it, then it must be accurate.

R Huse said...

Uninformed? Not very likely as I list examples and reasons for my contention. You simply call people names, a very weak stance.

Other than the name calling, your only argument is a fatally flawed analogy. After using it twice I am surprised you didn't realize the error in it.

Koresh claimed to be something whereas Hitler claimed to be an adherent of an idea. In this case a system of government, fascism which he called National Socialism. That fascism was strongly associated with socialism and shares many qualities with it is something you simply don't seem to understand.

Koresh - Claiming to be something doesn't make you that thing.

Hitler - Claiming to adhere to an idea, and then acting in a way consummate with that adherence does in fact make you an adherent of that system.

I would suggest that in the future, rather than simply call those who refute your flawed analysis "uninformed" you brush up a little on your basic logic skills. It would help you to avoid fatal logical errors, in this case your analogy. It would also possibly help you in avoiding the silly name calling. As a start you should begin brushing up on the economic model fascism was based upon as well as the world political zeitgeist as it pertained to fascism at the time. Good luck!

the socialist said...

I am prepared to respond to the substance of your comment, but I see no point in doing so unless you indicate that you're actually interested in getting one. Quite honestly, I get the sense that you don't really care one way or another.

Insofar as alleged "silly name-calling" is concerned, I stand by my characterization of your comments as "ridiculous," which they are, and "uninformed," which your subsequent post confirms. A more detailed response would illustrate why, but as I said:

Only if you're genuinely interested. Otherwise, what's the point?

R Huse said...

Well, the point would have been to defend your position. I have given you ample opportunity to do so by responding in a polite and reasoned fashion. Clearly, you still cant defend, that's too bad.

After several reasoned responses by me, you still cant defend your position beyond repeating the name calling and the fatally flawed analogy. At this point to be coming up with the excuse "Only if you're genuinely interested." is a little late in the game and somewhat laughable. I mean, there is weak and then there is W-E-A-K.

Clearly you know this, and thus your backing out. I am clearly far more informed on the issue than you as I can list historical and logical reasons for my position. You, on the other hand can only stammer along and say "b..b...b....b.....b......but your uninformed".

At this point just give it up guy. You got called on your position, you couldn't defend it, and now you are weaseling out of in a patently obvious manner. While humorous, it is not substantive.

the socialist said...

I'll take that as a "I don't give a shit." Which I'd assumed anyway.