In the name of fairness and equality it's time for us to support the Escaped-Americans Safe Driver's License and In-state Tuition Equity bill. (soon to have bi-partisan support)
This bill would make it easier for Undocumented Inmates who, trying to make better lives for themselves, find that they are in a situation where they left prison without permission.
These Americans who just happen to be escaped convicts will need a drivers license to travel safely on our roads, get to their place of employment and possibly to avoid capture.
Without a quality education these Undocumented-Inmates will not be able to get jobs to win the future. It's time for Oregon taxpayers to subsidize these individual regardless of their "escaped from prison" status.
Please join me in urging the legislature to quickly pass this bill. Remind everyone that if they don't support these ideas it must because they are full of hate.
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we should also include a provision in this bill to provide amnesty to those prisoners who committed home invasions since there is really no significant difference between invading somebody's home and invading somebody's country.
Remember, they're only doing it to "provide a better life for them and their family."
If we can call illegal immigrants "displaced travelers" why not call escaped prisonered "misplaced incarcerated". I think all children of misplaced incarcerated should be given free college education and a new car paid for by taxpayers of course.
I'm not sure we need to fund the efforts.
But while we are at it, we need to remove any condition of mental stability. This would apply to Seniors, who regardless of metal capacity, need to be honored and allowed to be self sufficient - as demonstrated by driving.
And just because someone is a danger to themselves or others, is no reason to deny them the opportunity to use an automobile, in a safe a lawful manner.
Would Oregonians for Immigration Reform member and convicted child molester Bruce Benkle by included in your education for inmates plan?
again another low rent crack baby enters the room. 819 Get your damn burqua on and go sit in the corner. No one was speaking to you.
My, my, what a target count: Muslims, women, the poor, and victims of drug addiction. And all in just twenty words. Well done.
Liberal women support the burqua. Just ask Code Pink....
Anonymous: You dirty slimy piece of shit. Keep my name out of your classless mouth. I am out and I paid for my crime you bastard, leave me alone or else, say it to my face, you gutless SOB. And Daniel....why don't you find out who this bastard is and block him or at least give me his name so I can get a laywer and sue him for harrasment and libel. You can probably do this thru the Blog administration offices....after all, it's your blog. I am getting sick of his always bringing me into the picture after all these years. Anybody wants to talk to me ....talk to me directly.
Hey, Bruce, Anonymouse 819 will never, repeat NEVER, meet with you face to face. He's too chicken-shit to do that.
He's always after Daniel, too, for his past actions and has paid for a long time ago.
Scottiebill
Scottiebill, I remember you, and piggle, and Kaelri from way back. Yes I follow Daniel's blog all the time...so does my daughter and sister, thats why I distinctly dislike Anonymous. There is no reason to bring that stuff up in this blog. This blog is for political discussion and should remain so. Anybody has any questions for me about what really went on with me and not the made up crap and hype I will discuss it with anybody...because what goes on in this state that "passes" for so-called justice is diabolical. They made up a lot of stuff on me because I fought against the plea deal that was offered by the "public pretender" because I was innocent of many of those charges. Polk Co doesn't like people who fight against being railroaded...they want you to go quietly and easily so that they can work you into the $$$$ system, because thats what this state runs on now....The D.O.C.
Anon 8:19 has no real defense so the next best thing is distraction, a comment regarding a played out topic should do the trick right? I have already forgotten what we were discussing...oh yeah, criminal invaders raping our country raw!
Bruce, if you had any class whatsoever, you would leave here and never return. Daniel himself has referred to you as a "dirtbag". Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree or not, you are what's known as "damaged goods". (Just like your victims.)
To the extent you continue to put yourself out there in the public light, and to the extent you continue to self-identify with the causes discussed on this forum, you can expect that your criminal actions will be a source of commentary. After all, you can't divorce the causes, from the actors in those causes. To the extent conservative causes have people with your sordid background in their ranks, well...that hurts those causes.
But then again, seeing as how you didn't possess the character or integrity that would have prevented you from performing your heinous crimes, one should not expect that you would have the good sense to know when it's time to shut-up and lay low. You are "persona non-grata". You were not invited to the party, you are not WANTED at the party...and yet you still show up.
You can "pay society back" for your crimes, but you can't undo those crimes. Again, just ask your victims.
(And go ahead, sue for libel. But before you do, maybe your attorney can explain to you that it is not illegal for someone to bring up your past, and rub your nose in it.)
Bruce ... if you really are that Bruce, let me see if I can get my head around this:
1) You were arrested, prosecuted for and convicted of child molestation, were you not?
2) And yet you're saying you're innocent?
3) And you've returned to Miglavia now to ... what? Warn people about the dangers presented by people that you're on record as making racist jokes about?
Do you think maybe we could arrange for a way for you to address all these questions via a video feed so we can see if you're saying those things with a straight face?
Oh God ... something tells me this is going to be one of the best Miglavian threads ever.
YES, I am THAT Bruce and NO, I was NOT convicted of child molestation. Any of my 3 charges were classified as attempted because of lackk of proof but Polk Co. is diabolical. I will discuss thyis soon I have to get to an appointment I will return tonight.
I'm sure Bruce can explain everything. ;-)
Interesting. I posted a comment about Bruce and how ALL convicted criminals claim they aren't guilty...and after being on this site for an hour or two, it was deleted.
Apparently Daniel DOES censor this blog.
I had the same problem a few weeks ago ... posted a single paragraph comment (with links) that called out the global warming deniers. It was repeatedly deleted over the course of 2-3 days of trying. If Miglavs wasn't doing it, someone with access to his account was.
If you had links in your comments, Blogger may have mistook them for spam posts and deleted them automatically. That's happened to me several times, whereas all of my link-free posts are fine.
Hey Miglavs, FBI made an arrest in the MLK bombing...know him?
Am I the only one who's concerned about what Bruce's "appointment" was?
Yes, You might be the only one, but being as though you inquired, because obviously you are sssooooo concerned about my business, it was an appointment at the Outpatient VA clinic near Mission for some blood workup for my yearly physical. Is that enough information for your book Anonymous?
Actually, Bruce, I don't give a flying rat's ass what you were doing. I was being sarcastic.
You impudent punk. I asked you nicely several months ago to leave your comments about me off the blog. You obviously do not care that my family reads this blog and do not care for your malicious comments especially when you are so far wrong about your so-called facts on my case. Do not believe everything you read in the papers. I know you could give a "flying rats-ass" about me or the true facts. People like you only want to believe the worst and constantly repeat lies over and over to convince yourself of your so called righteousness. If you were so righteous, you would leave me alone or just respond to the actual political discussion that goes on in this blog. OH YEAH, Nobody, but nobody, especially you is going to tell me where I can go or not go and say or not say what I feel. You make the most God-awful comments on here and I don't recall anybody telling you you're not invited...so don't you ever tell me if I can talk to people or not. Iv'e had enough of that shit for the last couple of years and I will NOT take it anymore.
Bruce, answer one question:
Do you think your presence here, or with any conservative causes, actually helps those causes, or hurts them?
I just want to see how attached you are, or are not, to reality.
Oh, and thanks, but I'll tend to believe the newspapers before I believe a convicted criminal. I know...I'm silly that way.
The words "don't feed the trolls" have never been more pertinent.
I am very attached to reality. Anybody that agrees with the views of this blog knows the difference between reality and rose-colored glasses. You are on me like flies on a dog turd because of my past, not my politics. NO, I do not stand out at rallies with a sign saying"Here I am Bruce the Barber". I stay in the backround BUT I do attend. Most people, in fact almost everybody, except for that blowhard big mouth Rick Hickey, don't even recognize me. I was at the Mission St rally by Costco last year and apologized to Jim Ludwig and the other Jim (forgot his last name) and they shook my hand and accepted my apology. What pisses me off is that you play into the same crap as the justice system. You refer to my heinous crimes and how many and proceed to blow everything out of proportion which is what Polk Co is expert at. And you're wrong, I did not go to trial, I was not "convicted"...I was "forced" to accept a plea because of the people that act like you, letting their imaginations run away with all kinds of stupid stuff. I have every bit of paperwork and police reports with all the interviews of all people involved. If you ever care to know the real truth...I could show you. Anybody that has been involved in the Polk Co. "justice LOL" system knows exactly what I am talking about.
Kaelri...what do you mean "feed the trolls" is pertinent. So I am a troll now???
Okay Bruce, I'll take you at your word. You're innocent. So tell me: What lessons do you draw from your experience, with regard to passing judgement on people based only on an initial accusation (regardless of whether it is reported in the media) and scapegoating? Do you believe this lesson is one that might be of value to people who, like you, are opposed to illegal immigration? What can they learn from this?
Do you see any relationship between the two?
At the high risk of giving you more pleasure than you deserve (LOL, my sarcasm), I have to admit the lesson I learned is that nobody should be quick to judge based on just hearsay and having familiar sounding names. Just because someone has a Spanish surname does not automatically mean that they drive drunk or sell drugs. I have learned you must not paint everybody with a broad brush, wait for the facts to come out, if possible, and then comment based on the facts in evidence. And YES, much to the delight of your (probably) now smiling face, I have been guilty of that on more than one occasion. This is becoming a long thread, so every so often I will have to take a break because I am in the middle of finals week, 5 of them in fact.
Well, I salute you. Your response is honest and thoughtful. Thanks for that, I appreciate it.
> Kaelri...what do you mean "feed the trolls" is pertinent. So I am a troll now???
No. I was going to say that you were engaging anonymous spectators without any hope of achieving a valuable, redeeming or constructive dialog. However, the last few posts may have proven me wrong about that. Carry on.
See, I learned again, a lesson. Anonymous CAN be decent when he (or she) wants to be. You would be surprised at the things I have learned over the past 3 years. Not all good but not all bad either. But in reality, Anonymous, I never said I was totally innocent. I am guilty of bad judgement and letting myself get too involved verbally with people I should not have been involvved with verbally. What pisses me off and I cannot"let it go" (as the DOC punks always urge us felons to do) is that what I actually "did" DID NOT, DOES NOT , and NEVER WILL warrant the taking of my life, my business, my bank accounts, my apartment, my dog, my furniture, and my reputation (which up to that point was excellent as I never have been in trouble before in my life and never did have a police record for 57 years). Because some people "said things" Oregon believes it without proof. There were other people who claim that those people were outright lying and telling stories, BUT the D.A. in Polk Co. did not want to talk to them even though my lawyer tried to get their testimony into the records but was refused. This system must be investigated along with Kevin Maddux and his stupid Measure 11 law because it is used as a weapon agaainst people to scare them into taking a plea instead of chancing a trial and going away for 20 or 30 years. And it worked with me. I went in with 4 misdeamenors and by the time I hired my "real" lawyer they had stacked 9 Measure 11's 8 A Felonies and a few other just for good measure. Of course though when I accepted the plea instead of chancing a trial...all that went away...Funny???
Anon 1050: Mark Twain wrote, "If you don't read newspapers, you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers, you are misinformed." It has been quite well established over the years that Twain was a very smart and astute writer. And he was a whole lot smarter than nearly everyone on this blog, especially you. Maybe it is about damn time for you to quit attacking everyone here and start trying to get a life, such as it might be.
Scottiebill
Scottiebill...who did I attack except for Anonymous...but now he is civil so I am being civil. I did not atack you or anybody else. I just asked Kaelri what he meant, that was not an attack. I have been following and reading this blog for over a year without attacking anybody or even commenting on anything until I saw the comments from Anonymous way back when. I wouldn't have knopwn he said anything until my sister said there was some crap I should see on this blog. That's all, I am fine now. That last answer to Anonymous on what I "learned" was true. I have been wrong at times and I am working on correcting that.
Scottiebill's comment was directed at Anonymous.
OH...SORRY. I didn't realize. It was a little confusing. So, anyway, how have you been the last 3 years Kaelri. I remember reading your comments years ago, I enjoyed them. Sometimes I agreed and sometimes I didn't. Do you remember Piggle? or Dave Mulkey? They are on Steatesman Journal a lot now.
I'm fairly astonished to learn that you agreed with me at all, Bruce. But I've been alright, and appreciate your asking. I'm afraid I don't remember the other two very well.
Bruce, just curious...did you vote "Yes" on Measure 11? Knowing what I do about your politics, and that it passed with almost a 66% majority, I'd say there's about a 99% certainty you did. What about the Measure (I think it was Measure 40?) to repeal Measure 11? That also failed by just as large a margin, and there too, I have to guess you were probably one of the people who didn't see Measure 11 as a problem and did not want to see it repealed.
But anyway, you didn't really answer my question. Well, you sort of did indirectly, I suppose. You seemed to hint that you don't think it presents any particular problem to associate yourself with conservative causes, because YOU separate your politics from your past.
But do you honestly think most other people do? I'm not asking if you think they "should". I'm asking if you think they actually do?
I bring this up because if Iwas in your shoes...I would not put myself out in the limelight out of respect for those causes. I would harbor no false illusions that I wasn't damaged goods, and I would act accordingly.
P.S. Just as an aside, there is not one "Anonymous". I thought I'd point that out, since implicit in this conversation is the idea that "Anonymous" is only one person. That's not true.
Not to defend child molesters, but just to point out how screwed up the system can be...
Two male high school friends, who were 18 and 17. The 18 year old convinced the 17 year old to ride with him and back him up when they went to another high schooler's house to collect an alleged debt. During the drive over the 17 year old gets cold feet, but the 18 year old says you're not getting out, we're going to collect.
At any rate, the police become involved. The 18 year old technically 'imprisoned' the 17 year old, and is now a convicted sex offender, even though there was nothing sexual going on.
Like I said, it can be a screwed up system.
I don't delete comments. I do like Kaelri.
I had to cut it short ...it was too long, until tommorrow.
a rare appearance by Daniel..you forgot to mention if you knew the MLK bomber tho'.
... and whether you still think Komrade Bruce is still a "dirtbag."
We were getting along so nice there Anonymous...why do you start off this morning by referring to me as "Komrade" using the communist spelling. I am not a communist. I was writing something last night that was so long it would not post to Daniels site. 4,278 words is too long. I will post my answer to your questions of the measure 11 thing sometime today. I will write it on word and then cut and paste to the site. This way I can keep track of at least getting it on there. But quickly...No, I did not vote for Measure 11 (I saw the danger of it early on)....and Yes, I did vote to repeal it.
Not surprising that Ludwig shook your hand and accepted your apology. I wonder what part of illegal, heinous and sick Jimmy doesn't understand? Maybe if you weren't white he wouldn't have.
Blowhard big mouth me? Rick Hickey?
Bruce, I have Children and a Granddaughter and do not take Child molestation lightly.
You just admitted you were NOT completely innocent in here!
Only God and you know the truth, you can lie too us but not too God.
What was the motivation for those Children to lie about your advances? Were they that upset with the Haircut you just gave them.
First off..Rick, I didn't cut their hair AND, I didn't lure them into something. I also suggest that you learn to read. The words child molester or molestation or any other words with sexual connotations DO NOT, NEVER DID, and NEVER WILL appear in my so-called charges.{Yes. I can prove it as I have the court papers in my possession). Back in 2008 in one of Daniels blog (I know because I went back and read them all in the archives on the site) you said I said some jokes or said some words to you that you didn't like. I remember this incident because it was in my house when you came to pick me up to go to one of the protests. I didn't say anything near to what you insinuated in the blog. You did however mention that you were so mad you were going to "kick my ass" right then and there...in my own apt. Naturally, this was said behind my back as I was already in in 2008. I referred to you as a blowhard and a big mouth because #1 your a liar and #2 you didn't "kick my ass". You couldn't even if you wanted to. We were friends and we went to several protests together after that so-called incident and you never mentioned a word. If it was SO BAD what I allegedly said, why did you still associate with me, you two faced liar?
Bruce, A convicted child molester calling me a liar? oh well.
But the last time I was with you (cause you needed a ride) was when the Rusty Woolridge Bike rally came to Salem for a protest.
Before you were hauled away.
Back to my original question (in an attempt to being a reasonable person) YOU, just above here, SAID you were not completely innocent Bruce.
And why did those Children accuse you of this?
ps, I could kick your ASS.
I had a lot of practice in H.S. in Chicago with the name Rickey Hickey.
> "ps, I could kick your ASS."
...really? :-/
If I remeber correctly, you were there that night also because I hosted them when they stayed over. all 10 of them. That was a fun night camped out at my house. I cooked up Bar-B-Que short ribs, mashed red potatoes and sour cream, sweet corn on the cobb and various Bud's, Bud Light, Keystone and Pabst's. All the guys slept all around the floor and the two girls....I gave them my bedroom so they could be comfortable. I still have pictures of that night. My daughter was still too liberal back then so she sort of hid in her bedroom, didn't want to talk to Woolridge, and didn't like politics at that time either. Back to the point, NO I wasn't completely innocent. I was guilty of bad judgement and getting friendly (verbally) with teenagers that I shouldn't have had conversations with like I did. I had a whole explanation about this the other night and was explaining everything, not realizing there was a word limit to this blog. By the time I hit the post to site button I had 4,339 words, because it said I couldn't post. I tried to erase some of the words to get it back down to a respectable level but when I hit post again the whole screen dissappeared, so I lost all my thoughts. Since you and Anonymous and J.D. want to know my version of events, I will tell you. What I am doing is writing it out on several word documents about maybe 800 - 900 words each and saving it to a flashdrive and then I can cut and paste it on several posts one right after another. If I am doing it wrong someone please tell me because I am not exactly a Steve Jobs or Bill Gates when it comes to computers.For now however, I am basically through with tucking my tail between my legs and living in the shadows like D.O.C. wants all of us felons to do. The crap that goes on in Oregon D.O.C. must be brought to light and this bullcrap Measure 11 farce that they use as a weapon on people needs to be changed. I even have 2 letters from lawyers who state that Oregon uses Measure 11 as a weapon to force pleas from people who are too frightened to try to go to trial because of years and years hanging over their head. This basically what happened to me. But I will clarify it with my posts. It might take me all weekend but I will get it done.
Okay, wait a minute: Bruce says he wasn't convicted. Rick says he was convicted.
You can't both be right. Who's telling the truth? The whole truth?
ME...I'm right. You are convicted by a "jury of your peers" as the saying goes. You go to trial and you lose. 12 people then have told you that you are "convicted". I was scared into accepting a plea because after coming into jail on 3 misdeameanors and getting a "public PRETENDER" I did not roll over and just take a plea. Hindsight....bad mistake. But I wanted to fight, so as I fought...the D.A. took the misdeameanors and turned them into Measure 11's. I fought harder...he added 6 "A" felonies. I hired Paul Ferder....D.A. added 4 more Measure 11's and 3 "B" felonies just for good measure. I could have had Johnny Cochran for a lawyer but Polk Co. was intent on getting me on something and Ferder said they would have. He said "Thats the way they play here, if anybody can prove your innocence, it's me but do you really want to take that chance? If you lose you will do anywhere from 6 - 15 or 20 years. If you take the plea they will drop everything except just enough to send you to prison for a short time and I can arrange it so you go to Boot Camp at Shutter Creek. You'll be out in less than 2 years, but you're in Polk Co. and this is the way they roll". He told this to my mom, sister , daughter and me and the family agreed not to take any chances at my age and just accept the fate and learn a lesson from it....and I certainly did. I come from a pretty conservative no nonsense family. Nobody but nobody has ever gone to jail....let alone prison. If my mom honestly thought I did what the dirty lying papers said I did she would not have sold a major portion of her stock and my sister would not have borrowed money and I wouldn't have had to close my bank accounts and sell evrything I ever owned.My daughter actually convinced my mom because she was there. She saw the teenagers, she knows they were never around my house nor in my car like they said. Some of them went to the D.A and told the DA those others are making up lies but the bastard didn't want to talk to them...he just wanted to talk to the scum that was saying what he wanted to hear. SO NO, I was not convivcted by anybody. I accepted a plea. Semantics, baby, Semantics.
Thanks for the clarification. So Rick ... having difficulty with the reality-based world again?
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