Friday, April 03, 2009

When seconds count the police are just minutes away

I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Upstate New York gunman kills 13, commits suicide
A gunman barricaded the back door of a community center with his car and then opened fire on a room full of immigrants taking a citizenship class Friday, killing 13 people before apparently committing suicide, officials said.

One receptionist was killed, while the other, who was shot in the abdomen, pretended to be dead, then crawled under a desk and called 911, he said. Police said they arrived within two minutes. The rest of those killed were shot in the classroom. Four people were critically wounded.

Police heard no gunfire after they arrived but waited for about an hour before entering the building to make sure it was safe for officers. They then spent two hours searching the building.

The timeline always seems to be the same when the victims can't fire back:

gunman arrives > kills everyone > kills himself > police arrive > police stand outside pointing weapons and the building for hours

The timeline when a potential victim can shoot back like in the recent church shooting incident:

gunman arrives > gunman shoots > gunman gets shot > everyone else lives


Anonymous said...

It finally happened :(

An Immigrant who lost his job at IBM from newer Immigrants who will work for even less, goes to the place where they take their Citizenship classes and Kills some of them.

I knew that some crazy person fed up with the destruction of our country via Illegal 21st century Slave "Immigrants" would blow his top some day, but I thought it would be in California not NY.

Politicians, YOU ignore the will of the people and now the people are fighting back, literally.

The Revolution has started and your next Fuckers!

If I was an Illegal immigrant I would go home now, with all that American money you stole, while you can.

Hey Mexican Consulate in Portland, are those Bullet proof windows?

Anonymous said...

The post above was written by a sociopath ... no apparent sympathy for the victims, only mild surprise that it was NY and not California, along with the standard Miglavian hint of violence to come, informing "politicians" that they're "next." Quite a sewer you preside over, Daniel. What's the official OFIR position on this? Is OFIR arming its members, planning a violent new stage in the "revolution"?

nezua said...

Hey, sicko, looks like we blog from almost the same part of the state.

Scottiebill said...

Anon 11:17, Are you naturally stupid or did you have to go to some second-rate government school to learn it?

Things at that IBM building could have been quite different had someone there been carrying a licensed weapon with a concealed-carry permit. Possibly a lot fewer people would have been killed. But we'll never know now, will we?

And with apologists for the shooter at IBM like Anon 11:17 for encouragement, more of these incidents will continue.

Kaelri said...

Apparently criticizing someone's lack of sympathy for shooting victims now constitutes being an "apologist" for the shooter. Does that seem backwards to anyone else?

Anonymous said...

Anon 6:46 is threatening violence to the Mexican Consulate and Politicians. And Scottieshill is calling anon 11:17 an apoligist for the shooter for speaking against the violence and hate speech. What school did you go to learn your stupidity, Scottie? Was it a private bible school or homeschooling?

Anonymous said...

Didn't this use to be a white country? What happened? We let in all these spics and slant-eyes and the place goes to hell. We need to seal ourselves off before things get worse.

Bobkatt said...

Kaelri, no apologists here. These knee-jerk comments are as usual misguided.
This incident has nothing to do with immigrants legal or illegal. Nothing to do with revolution or even much to do with Daniel's reasoning behind the post. It has to do with a possible "crack-head" isolated psychopath that may or may not have been stopped by a weapon carrying citizen.
These psychopaths come in all colors, creeds, and nationalities. While I believe the damage could be lessened by strict immigration control, this example could not because this person has been a citizen for 10 years.
anon 11:17 you keep referring to Maglavian's as though everyone who posts on this blog must think the same. I guess that means you are a Maglavian. Yeah, you're part of the sewer. As far as OFIR goes, they are a private group, they owe you no comment or explanation. But you always have to make inferences and speculations before you even hear from them. Nothing but a knee-jerk jerk.

anon 6:46 and anon 4:33- thanks for lowering the intellectual level here with your diatribes.

Kaelri said...

Well that's about the most delightfully sensible thing I've ever seen you post.

Anonymous said...

I think the world would be much safer if every single person age 7 and up owned a gun, rocket launcher and a cache of grenades. Very, very safe. What a delightful world it would be.

A6:46 is indeed a lunatic. Yes, not only a hint of surprise about the location, but I also detect a hint of disappointment. Let's call it what it is: You people are fascists. Admit it. Fascists wrapped in red white and blue.

Scottiebill said...

Thanks, Bobkatt, No one could have said it better.

And Anon 2:02, I still read 11:17's comments as being apologetic for the shooter, as well as just plain stupid. If you don't like what those of us have say in rebuttal of your obvious left wing, anti-gun, anti-conservative comments, that is just tough shit. We will not be deterred just because you don't like what we have to say.

And FYI, I got my education at a government school in northern Montana back when the government schools were not controlled by the decidedly left-wing teachers unions as they are today. I was not home schooled, and there were no parochial schools withing a 100 mile radius of our town.

Anonymous said...

A Man who lives on the AZ-Mexico border wrote this today about a Hearing in DC as the Politicians are trying to get Stealth Amnesty...

If the chairwoman of a congressional committee (Zoe Lofgren) will slander a Yale law graduate, Oxford Ph.D. and former Justice Department official for the purpose of killing immigration law enforcement we are in serious trouble. With massive unemployment, the American people will fight amnesty for illegal workers. However, the radical left, now in charge of our government, will stop at nothing to keep the illegals working here. This can only lead to anarchy and civil unrest... it is going to happen.
We urge all Americans to accept this inevitability and prepare for it.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Miglavs is not crazy. It's his cover. Anti-Latino/immigrant wacko is a front for his work in Portland. A Mexican wife and an association w/LA's notorious 18th Street drug gang, Mr. Miglavs? Playing footsies w/both the Mexican or Russian cartels, мистер Daniil Miglavs?

добрый день

a miglavian said...

I think that every street corner in the country ought to have a firearms vending machine -- loaded guns for a buck. We'd all be verrrrrrry safe. Yessirreeee. Very safe. :-)

honest question here said...

Anybody have any thoughts why countries like the United Kingdom and Japan, where very few households contain guns, have significantly less gun violence than the United States?

Bobkatt said...

All silly comments aside, the cost of freedom is eternal vigilance and is not cheap.
Why is it that the people that worship Darwin are the first to attack those that believe in taking their personal protection and responsibilities the most serious?

Bryan Saxton said...

"Why is it that the people that worship Darwin are the first to attack those that believe in taking their personal protection and responsibilities the most serious?"

That's a good question.

Anonymous said...

Anybody have any thoughts ...

You're addressing this question to Miglavians?

Anonymous said...

it is illegal for a citizen of Mexico to own a gun. Only the police and army in Mexico can have weapons...

Kind of makes you wonder why there is so much violence in Mexico right now since...Citizens cant own guns.

7000 murders in the last couple of months.

Citizens not owning weapons has not stopped the murders.

Therefore, less guns is not the answer.

The answer is a law that arms everyone, and everyone must know how to use a gun.

Bobkatt said...

It's not so much whether guns are legal or not. It has more to do with whether the people have respect for those laws and the condition of their lives. Some of the most dangerous cities in the U.S. have the strictest gun laws, New York, Washington D.C., and Detroit. South Africa has very strict gun laws and about the highest gun deaths in the world.

I suggest that the condition these citizens live under, lack of possibilities and just plain desperation breed irrational behavior. Can you imagine the desperation that would allow you to strap bombs to your own children just to seek revenge?

Just as the war on drugs places the major emphasis on punishment rather than concentrating more on lowering the demand, rather than more strict gun laws we need to concentrate on giving every citizen the opportunity to be productive. With continued outsourcing and unlimited illegal immigration we can only be guaranteed more and more desperation and carnage.