Thursday, February 28, 2008

Osamabama?

In the interest of further distancing myself from the RNC let me just say this...

Barak HUSSEIN Obama
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Really guys, I look forward to more "help the Republican" phone calls and those fundraising letters, I mean "surveys," where my "opinion really counts." Keep sending me those.

Based on the RNC position of amnesty support I would assume that if I gave them any money it would go to Ted Kennedy if not for his little misspeak.

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There I bet that does far more damage to the Republican Party than Obama's middle name ever would.

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Bwah hahahahahah. Looky, the Republican ratings are plumeting.

frank said...

Wow. What a contrast.

Yesterday we lost William F. Buckley Jr., a towering conservative who set a great example and impeccable standard for raising the level of political discussion in this country. Right-wing, moderate, or left-wing, you had to admire that.

Meanwhile, over in Sherwood, Oregon, little Daniel Miglavs logs on every day to see how low he can drag discourse, to illustrate how small a human being can be. Daniel, you're no longer just sprinting downhill, as you once seemed content to do. You're TUNNELING to new depths, where no light exists and the air is rancid. I hope you feel grand about that. What an admirable example you set. What a piece of work you are.

What an asshole.

Bobkatt said...

I personally hope that Obama does win the Democratic popular vote and the super-duper delegates give the nomination to Clinton. This might just wake up a few people to the fact that both parties are as corrupt as any of the old-time smoke filled back room "Good ole Boys" syndicates of yore.
Not only did both parties conspire to exclude candidates that they didn't want in the debates, but some of the super delegates which number about 800, actually shared in about $890,000 in bribe money paid out by Clinton and Obama.

Scottiebill said...

One has to wonder, after listening to Teddy Kennedrunk, just how much scotch he had in him when he ran his mouth here.

And, remember, more people were killed in Ted Kennedy's car than have been killed in any nuclear power plant.

Anonymous said...

In Miglavia, people concern themselves with the number of people who died in Ted Kennedy's car nearly 40 years ago. They do not concern themselves with the number of people killed in Iraq in the last four years.

Miglavians are also unaware of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant disaster in the 1980s, which killed more than 50 people and was linked to the cancer deaths of thousands more.

Welcome to Miglavia.

Scottiebill said...

Hey Anon 11:29: For some reason, probably deliberately on your part, you neglected to mention the 40,000-plus people who are killed each year in traffic accidents, about half of those by drunk drivers. Or don't you care about them? None of you libs do, but do everything you can to slam the Iraq War, primarily because you hate President Bush so much that nothing else seems to matter in your little world..

Maybe after November and Obambi gets the White House, you will think things will get better. But, know this, if Obambi, or Hillary gets in, their actions will make Jimmy Carter look like the second coming of Abraham Lincoln. Either Obambi or Hillary will then be able to take Carter's place as the worst president in modern times, at least since Woodrow Wilson.

BEAR said...

scottiebill and bobkatt, well said, as usual. Bobkatt hits it on the head re bribery. Democrat John Lewis was paid $5,000/month for the last year by hillary to support her. He is such a weasel, he just reneged, and threw his support to b. hussein obama. Hillary put him on her "let's meet in Fort Marcy Park some night" list.

Anonymous said...

ScottieBill, or perhaps I should address you as ... Ignorant Asshole:

Liberals no longer have a monopoly on hating Bush. Plenty of conservatives hate him too. So get over it. Also: I'm not voting for Clinton or Obama. Sorry to disappoint. As usual, the Miglavian instinct is to assume. As usual, you assumed wrong.

Bottom line: Your comparison of Kennedy's drunk driving to deaths by nuclear accident (were you even aware of Chernobyl? Had you even heard of it?) was fucking ridiculous (which is why, in Bear's world, it was "well-said") and that was the ONLY point I wanted to make ... that, and your obvious ignorance about the worst nuclear disaster in HISTORY. Only a fucking fool would use my statement to conclude that I am somehow a supporter of drunk drivers. Oh ... wait a minute. You are a fucking fool. I guess I shouldn't have assumed that you were capable of having an intelligent thought. My mistake.

Anonymous said...

First of all don't forget Mccain Has a Joe liberman record by a Democrat
remember Governor Arnold swartz is backing Mccain and Maria shriver is backing obama predicting an obama win
n March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times that Obama was not a "practicing Muslim."

But his official website says: "Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian."

This is the basic problem with Obama -- his dissimulation.
Obama's father was a Muslim. Obama's grandfather was a Muslim. Obama's stepfather was a Muslim. Sarah, who Obama calls grandmother is a Muslim. Obama's stepbrothers and stepsisters are Muslims.

Obama, by birth and by blood was a Muslim. For a time, he was educated and lived as a Muslim. Only Obama knows what he is today.

What follows is what is publicly known about Obama and religion.
1960

Obama's mother Anna is often reported as being an atheist, but her parents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, were Baptists. While living in Mercer Island, Washington, during the 1950's, Madelyn and Stanley shed their Methodist and Baptist upbringing and began attending, along with Anna, Sunday services at the East Shore Unitarian Church in nearby Bellevue.

"In the 1950s, this was sometimes known as 'the little Red church on the hill,' " said Peter Luton, the church's senior minister, referring to the leftist bent of the church'stor. Skepticism, the kind that Stanley embraced and passed on to his daughter, was welcomed here.

Senior was a Muslim, as was his extended family.
1968

After Anna's divorce from Barack Senior, she marries Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo. Anna will have a daughter with Lolo, named Maya.




Soetoro, a Muslim, promptly moves his new family to Jakarta, Indonesia, the worlds most populous Muslim country.

1968


The "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog reports that Obama's Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam. He will spend three years at Franciscus.

Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students are typically excused from religious instruction and ceremony.

1971


Obama's family moves from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street and Obama enters the 4th grade at the Besuki Primary School, a government school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim.

1971


All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.

"I remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Tine said.

Obama himself recalls, "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies."

Our guy in Jakarta writes: "The actual usage of the word 'mengaji' in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. "Mengagi" is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes."

"The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet."

"As I've stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."

1972


In 2007, Obama's classmate Rony Amiris describes young Barry as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.

"We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny," said Rony.

Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims"

Rony extrapolates further, that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a Muslim to the be President of the United States.

1972


In 2007, Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong', at that time."

"He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion."

1972


Upon Dunham's divorce from Lolo she sent 10-year-old Barack to live with her parents in Honolulu, while she and his half-sister stayed in Indonesia.

There is little or no mention of Obama and religion for the next 15 years.
1988 When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago's South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people -- pastors and congregants -- who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, "Where do you go to Church, young man?" It was a question he dodged for a while, but finally he relented and joined a church.

Obama didn't join just any church, but a huge black nationalist church, the Trinity United Church of Christ (UCC). Its pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, unabashedly preaches a "black" gospel.

Trinity describes itself as a "congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian. Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."

"Trinity has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa, is committed to the historical education of African people in diaspora and committed to liberation, restoration, and economic parity."

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. They believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Please read the "Black Value System" again -- only this time, substitute the word "White" for "Black."

If your church had such a "White Value System" Jesse and Al and the NAACP would have 10,000 demonstrators out front in a heartbeat.

HERE is the expanded "Black Value System" and it's a MUST READ.

Trinity is very anti-Israel and supports divestment.

There are 15 videos on Trinity United Church of Christ "About" page. You can access them by staring video #1 (double-click) and then clicking the Menu button on the player after its started. The 2nd video is truly disturbing. In it you can hear the Rev. Wright spew 5 minutes of hate speech.

Note: The videos referenced in the above paragraph have been taken down -- more scrubbing of the Internet by Obama's forces -- but HERE'S the link to the YouTube version and it's a must watch.
1988 Obama soon falls under the spell of the leftist black nationalist preacher, who preaches African-American unity through antipathy toward whites. Wright, who acts as Obama's personal spiritual adviser, is militantly Afrocentric. His website proudly claims, "We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."





Wright, who married the Obama's, remains a major influence on the presidential candidate. The title of Obama's second book, The "Audacity of Hope," is borrowed from one of Wright's sermons.

When he took over Trinity United Church of Christ in 1972, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. was a maverick pastor with a wardrobe of dashikis and a militant message.

He graduated from Howard University and earned bachelor's and master's degrees in English with a focus on African spirituals. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, he earned another masters degree in the history of religions with a focus on Islam.

This video, also available above, presents an example of the Rev. Wright's beliefs -- it is truly disturbing.

Wright sought to build his church on the black theology of liberation, the Marxist ideology introduced in 1968 by Rev. James Cone of New York. It emphasizes Africa's contribution to Christianity rather than that of mainstream white theologians.

At Trinity UCC's 2007 Trumpet Gala, Wright named the "Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan," acting head of the Nation of Islam, as Trinity's "Man of the Year," and awarded him the the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award."

It was Farrakhan, who was quoted saying, "White people are potential humans -- they haven't evolved yet"

(More racist quotes from Louis Farrakhan and a video that will introduce you to T. H. L. Farrakhan)

Ben Wallace-Wells notes in Rolling Stone: "This is as openly radical a background as any significant American political figure has ever emerged from."
1988 Pope Benedict XVI fought the infiltration of Marxists promoting Liberation Theology in the church. In "Liberation Theology" (2007) he wrote:

"...where the Marxist ideology of liberation had been consistently applied, a total lack of freedom had developed, whose horrors were now laid bare before the eyes of the entire world. Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic."
1988 Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a "baptism", there doesn't appear to be any record of a baptism.

Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama's baptism, wrote, "I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records."

It seems that Obama's conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright's altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.

Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, "He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart."

"I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means."

"Does it mean that you feel you've got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that's directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you're born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it's understood by some other tradition? I'm not sure."

"There are aspects of Christian tradition that I'm comfortable with and aspects that I'm not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, 'Ya know, I'm not sure about that.'"

"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

Falsani warns us that Obama's walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being "saved, transformed or washed in the blood." In other words, it's not to be confused with what Jesus called being "born again." As Mr. Obama himself explains, "It wasn't an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: "When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright's altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Falsani wonders, "What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions."

Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its "call to evangelize and proselytize," the good senator's faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.

At the core of Obama's faith -- whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two -- is African nativism and Obama's having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.

Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama's baptism, please contact me via feedback or email with a source, link or other documentation.

1988


Obama officially becomes an apostate Muslim by his conversion and the question needs to be asked, was Obama's conversion faith-based or political expediency?

In either case, Muslims view Obama as first a Muslim and then as an apostate Muslim. He faces the death penalty in nearly the entire Islamic world.

There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Muslim scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, "one who turns his back on Islam," an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed. At a minimum, other Muslims would shun him if not kill him and his mother. The fact they are eagerly welcomed by the Muslim community begs the question, is he their 'Manchurian' candidate?

At a minimum, Obama should be asked if he will support the efforts of Christian missionaries in Islamic countries to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity.

But the big question remains -- did Obama actually convert?

Has he publicly rejected his Muslim religion and accepted Christ?

The punishment for apostasy in Islam

1992


Obama and Michelle Robinson of Chicago, Illinois are married (October 18, 1992). The ceremony was performed by Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.
1992 Obama's family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.

"The person who made me proudest of all," Obama wrote, "was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage and Islamic faith. He has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol."

Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.
2007 On January 24. the Obama campaign released the following statement, "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

This statement is refuted by the campaign on March 14th. (Below)
2007 On February 27th, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies -- and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the world.

Original New York Times source -- requires LogIn.
2007 Obama's pastor Jeremiah A. Wright told The New York Times in an interview, published March 6th: "When his (Obama's) enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli," with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan to visit Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, "a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell."
2007 On March 14th, in a statement to The Times, the Obama campaign offered this statement to correct their previous statement:

"Obama has never been a practicing Muslim. The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood's Islamic center."

This is a departure from the earlier statement made by the Obama campaign on January 24. "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

In three months Barrack's campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now having never having been a practicing Muslim.

First was the lie, now the semi-lie.

And, the original statement began, "To be clear ..."

Dissimulation and al-taqiyya as a political tactic.

What's with the semantics? Statements from Obama's campaign appear to have evolved, to say the least.
2007 From the New York Times, "Mr. Obama has written that when he became a Christian, he 'felt God's spirit beckoning' and 'submitted myself to His will and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.' While he has said he shares core Christian beliefs in God and in Jesus as his resurrected son."
2007 April 30th, The New York Times has a report on its front page about Obama's strained relationship with his pastor, also known as his "spiritual mentor." The Times does tend to downplay some of the harsher statements that Pastor Wright has made about Israel, Wright's support for Louis Farrakhan; trips to Libya and more.

Pastor Wright is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan, and in 1984 traveled with him to visit Col. Muammar al-Gadaffi, an archenemy of Israel and America and a firm supporter of terror groups.

Wright has also been a severe critic of Israel. In his own words:

"The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for almost 40 years now. It took a divestment campaign to wake the business community up concerning the South Africa issue. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community up and to wake Americans up concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."
2007 Sen. Barack Obama told a church convention Saturday that some right-wing evangelical leaders have exploited and politicized religious beliefs in an effort to sow division.

"Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and faith started being used to drive us apart," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a 30-minute speech before the national meeting of the United Church of Christ.
2007 For Obama the acknowledgment of his religious upbringing has not been forthcoming and despite all the evidence to the contrary Obama continues to deny the fact that he was ever a Muslim. In the alternative, Obama would apparently have us to believe that one can somehow embrace Christianity without having to renounce Islam

So is Barack Obama really a stealth Muslim masquerading as a Christian? That all depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Obama must answer this simple question. "Do you renounce Islam and accept Christ?

Did you know, he never has.
2007 On December 22nd, in a small-town café in Pleasantville, Omaha, Obama was asked a question that typically only circulates on the Internet.


As he sat down to have a slice of pie with a small group of potential voters and an elderly woman asked him about being Muslim.


"I've always been a Christian," the Illinois Democrat responded in true Clintonesque fashion, "I have never practiced [Islam]."

Even though his father was a Muslim. His stepfather is a Muslim. His grandfather was a Muslim, His step-grandmother is a Muslim. His half-brothers and sisters are Muslims. His 1st cousin Rail Odinga is a Muslim who conspired with Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya to install an Islamic government in Kenya, Obama insists he was never a Muslim.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "menjaji" (recitation of the Quran)." Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam." Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong'. (See 1971 and 1972, above.)

Yet, on his official campaign website, Obama has posted this statement, "Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity."

What was he for the 27 years before his alleged conversion if he wasn't a Muslim?
2007 An American Expat in Southeast Asia blog, written by an American who has lived in Indonesia for 20 years and has met with both the Taliban and al-Qaeda, contains the following:

"Barack Hussein Obama might have convinced some Americans that he is no longer a Muslim, but so far he has not convinced many in the world's most populous Muslim country who still see him as a Muslim and a crusader for Islam and world peace."

"Barack Hussein Obama's race, his staunch opposition to the war in Iraq, his sympathy to Islam and Muslims worldwide and his Muslim heritage receive the Indonesian media coverage. There is no mention of his apostasy."

"A good example of how some of the Indonesian media is reporting on Obama's religion can be found in the following."

"Ayah kandung Obama disebut-sebut seorang Muslim, dan Barack Obama juga disebutkan pernah memeluk Islam. Setalah tinggal di AS dan diasuh neneknya, Obama mengaku telah memeluk Kristen. Masalah agama apa yang sekarang dianut Obama, itu adalah prinsip dirinya yang harus dihormati siapapun. Dan hanya Obama sendiri yang tahu dan akan mempertanggungjawabkan di hadapan Tuhan yang diyakininya."

"begin my translation..."

"Obama's father was mentioned to be a Muslim and Barack Obama had embraced Islam. After living in the USA and being taken care of by his grandmother, Obama claimed to embrace Christianity. The problem with religion and what is now followed by Obama is a principal he himself must honor. And only Obama personally will account before God for his beliefs."

"What I found interesting in the article was the use of the word 'mengaku' when refering to Obama's conversion from Islam to Christianity. The word 'mengaku' in Indonesian means "claimed" and as such leaves the insinuation to the native Indonesian reader being that Obama might actually still be a Muslim.

But this is how Indonesians see Obama, they don't see him as an apostate at all, they see him as a crusader for the cause of Islam."
2008 The San Francisco Chronicle reported on February, 28th, that the IRS is investigating the United Church of Christ over a speech Obama gave at its national meeting last year after he became a candidate for president, the denomination said Tuesday.

In a letter the denomination received Monday, the IRS said "reasonable belief exists" that the circumstances surrounding the speech violated restrictions on political activity for tax-exempt organizations. The denomination has denied any wrongdoing.

The IRS said in the letter that it was concerned about articles posted on the church's Web site and on other sites stating that Obama had addressed nearly 10,000 people at the event. The agency also said Obama volunteers had staffed campaign tables "outside the center to promote his campaign."

Amy Brundage, an Obama spokeswoman, insisted the speech was not a campaign event. In the address, Obama spoke about his personal spiritual journey and had said that faith had been misused in the past to divide Americans, partly because of the Christian right.

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n March 14th, 2007, the Obama Campaign told the LA Times that Obama was not a "practicing Muslim."

But his official website says: "Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian."

This is the basic problem with Obama -- his dissimulation.
Obama's father was a Muslim. Obama's grandfather was a Muslim. Obama's stepfather was a Muslim. Sarah, who Obama calls grandmother is a Muslim. Obama's stepbrothers and stepsisters are Muslims.

Obama, by birth and by blood was a Muslim. For a time, he was educated and lived as a Muslim. Only Obama knows what he is today.

What follows is what is publicly known about Obama and religion.
1960

Obama's mother Anna is often reported as being an atheist, but her parents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, were Baptists. While living in Mercer Island, Washington, during the 1950's, Madelyn and Stanley shed their Methodist and Baptist upbringing and began attending, along with Anna, Sunday services at the East Shore Unitarian Church in nearby Bellevue.

"In the 1950s, this was sometimes known as 'the little Red church on the hill,' " said Peter Luton, the church's senior minister, referring to the leftist bent of the church'stor. Skepticism, the kind that Stanley embraced and passed on to his daughter, was welcomed here.

Senior was a Muslim, as was his extended family.
1968

After Anna's divorce from Barack Senior, she marries Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo. Anna will have a daughter with Lolo, named Maya.




Soetoro, a Muslim, promptly moves his new family to Jakarta, Indonesia, the worlds most populous Muslim country.

1968


The "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" blog reports that Obama's Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam. He will spend three years at Franciscus.

Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students are typically excused from religious instruction and ceremony.

1971


Obama's family moves from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street and Obama enters the 4th grade at the Besuki Primary School, a government school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim.

1971


All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.

"I remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Tine said.

Obama himself recalls, "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies."

Our guy in Jakarta writes: "The actual usage of the word 'mengaji' in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. "Mengagi" is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes."

"The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet."

"As I've stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."

1972


In 2007, Obama's classmate Rony Amiris describes young Barry as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.

"We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house. If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny," said Rony.

Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims"

Rony extrapolates further, that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a Muslim to the be President of the United States.

1972


In 2007, Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong', at that time."

"He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion."

1972


Upon Dunham's divorce from Lolo she sent 10-year-old Barack to live with her parents in Honolulu, while she and his half-sister stayed in Indonesia.

There is little or no mention of Obama and religion for the next 15 years.
1988 When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago's South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people -- pastors and congregants -- who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, "Where do you go to Church, young man?" It was a question he dodged for a while, but finally he relented and joined a church.

Obama didn't join just any church, but a huge black nationalist church, the Trinity United Church of Christ (UCC). Its pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, unabashedly preaches a "black" gospel.

Trinity describes itself as a "congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian. Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."

"Trinity has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa, is committed to the historical education of African people in diaspora and committed to liberation, restoration, and economic parity."

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. They believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

Please read the "Black Value System" again -- only this time, substitute the word "White" for "Black."

If your church had such a "White Value System" Jesse and Al and the NAACP would have 10,000 demonstrators out front in a heartbeat.

HERE is the expanded "Black Value System" and it's a MUST READ.

Trinity is very anti-Israel and supports divestment.

There are 15 videos on Trinity United Church of Christ "About" page. You can access them by staring video #1 (double-click) and then clicking the Menu button on the player after its started. The 2nd video is truly disturbing. In it you can hear the Rev. Wright spew 5 minutes of hate speech.

Note: The videos referenced in the above paragraph have been taken down -- more scrubbing of the Internet by Obama's forces -- but HERE'S the link to the YouTube version and it's a must watch.
1988 Obama soon falls under the spell of the leftist black nationalist preacher, who preaches African-American unity through antipathy toward whites. Wright, who acts as Obama's personal spiritual adviser, is militantly Afrocentric. His website proudly claims, "We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization."





Wright, who married the Obama's, remains a major influence on the presidential candidate. The title of Obama's second book, The "Audacity of Hope," is borrowed from one of Wright's sermons.

When he took over Trinity United Church of Christ in 1972, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. was a maverick pastor with a wardrobe of dashikis and a militant message.

He graduated from Howard University and earned bachelor's and master's degrees in English with a focus on African spirituals. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, he earned another masters degree in the history of religions with a focus on Islam.

This video, also available above, presents an example of the Rev. Wright's beliefs -- it is truly disturbing.

Wright sought to build his church on the black theology of liberation, the Marxist ideology introduced in 1968 by Rev. James Cone of New York. It emphasizes Africa's contribution to Christianity rather than that of mainstream white theologians.

At Trinity UCC's 2007 Trumpet Gala, Wright named the "Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan," acting head of the Nation of Islam, as Trinity's "Man of the Year," and awarded him the the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award."

It was Farrakhan, who was quoted saying, "White people are potential humans -- they haven't evolved yet"

(More racist quotes from Louis Farrakhan and a video that will introduce you to T. H. L. Farrakhan)

Ben Wallace-Wells notes in Rolling Stone: "This is as openly radical a background as any significant American political figure has ever emerged from."
1988 Pope Benedict XVI fought the infiltration of Marxists promoting Liberation Theology in the church. In "Liberation Theology" (2007) he wrote:

"...where the Marxist ideology of liberation had been consistently applied, a total lack of freedom had developed, whose horrors were now laid bare before the eyes of the entire world. Wherever politics tries to be redemptive, it is promising too much. Where it wishes to do the work of God, it becomes not divine, but demonic."
1988 Nobody, except Obama knows if his conversion to Christianity is real or not. Although some reports and even Obama have referred to a "baptism", there doesn't appear to be any record of a baptism.

Chicago-based journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin, when asked about Obama's baptism, wrote, "I have never been able to obtain any evidence that he was baptized, although I asked for those records."

It seems that Obama's conversion occurred when he answered one of Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright's altar calls by walking down the aisle of Trinity Church to make a formal commitment of his faith.

Cathleen Falsani, religion columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, writes, "He (Obama) described his conversion experience in his mid-20s, how he walked the aisle at Trinity United Church of Christ one Sunday in a public affirmation of his private change of heart."

"I came to Christianity through the black church tradition where the line between evangelical and non-evangelical is completely blurred. Nobody knows exactly what it means."

"Does it mean that you feel you've got a personal relationship with Christ the savior? Then that's directly part of the black church experience. Does it mean you're born-again in a classic sense, with all the accoutrements that go along with that, as it's understood by some other tradition? I'm not sure."

"There are aspects of Christian tradition that I'm comfortable with and aspects that I'm not. There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go, 'Ya know, I'm not sure about that.'"

"It wasn't an epiphany," he says of that public profession of faith. "It was much more of a gradual process for me. I know there are some people who fall out. Which is wonderful. God bless them.... I think it was just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

Falsani warns us that Obama's walking the aisle at Trinity is poles apart from what Christians commonly refer to as being "saved, transformed or washed in the blood." In other words, it's not to be confused with what Jesus called being "born again." As Mr. Obama himself explains, "It wasn't an epiphany … but just a moment to certify or publicly affirm a growing faith in me."

In another account of this event, Manya Brachear, writing in the Chicago Tribune, describes the event thusly: "When Obama sought his own church community, he felt increasingly at home at Trinity. Before leaving for Harvard Law School in 1988, he responded to one of Wright's altar calls and declared a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Falsani wonders, "What kind of faith is it that is growing in Barack Obama? Is it the historic Christian faith? Not according to the good senator, who describes his faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions."

Unlike traditional Christianity, which Mr. Obama bemoans for its "call to evangelize and proselytize," the good senator's faith is strictly a personal and private affair. Although he has no qualms about parading it in public in hopes of bolstering his political career, he would never dream of preaching it to others in hopes of converting them to Christ.

At the core of Obama's faith -- whether lapsed Muslim, new Christian or some mixture of the two -- is African nativism and Obama's having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises political issues of its own.

Request for info: If anyone, anywhere, can validate Obama's baptism, please contact me via feedback or email with a source, link or other documentation.

1988


Obama officially becomes an apostate Muslim by his conversion and the question needs to be asked, was Obama's conversion faith-based or political expediency?

In either case, Muslims view Obama as first a Muslim and then as an apostate Muslim. He faces the death penalty in nearly the entire Islamic world.

There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Muslim scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, "one who turns his back on Islam," an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed. At a minimum, other Muslims would shun him if not kill him and his mother. The fact they are eagerly welcomed by the Muslim community begs the question, is he their 'Manchurian' candidate?

At a minimum, Obama should be asked if he will support the efforts of Christian missionaries in Islamic countries to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity.

But the big question remains -- did Obama actually convert?

Has he publicly rejected his Muslim religion and accepted Christ?

The punishment for apostasy in Islam

1992


Obama and Michelle Robinson of Chicago, Illinois are married (October 18, 1992). The ceremony was performed by Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.
1992 Obama's family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.

"The person who made me proudest of all," Obama wrote, "was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage and Islamic faith. He has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol."

Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.
2007 On January 24. the Obama campaign released the following statement, "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

This statement is refuted by the campaign on March 14th. (Below)
2007 On February 27th, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies -- and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the world.

Original New York Times source -- requires LogIn.
2007 Obama's pastor Jeremiah A. Wright told The New York Times in an interview, published March 6th: "When his (Obama's) enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli," with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan to visit Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, "a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell."
2007 On March 14th, in a statement to The Times, the Obama campaign offered this statement to correct their previous statement:

"Obama has never been a practicing Muslim. The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood's Islamic center."

This is a departure from the earlier statement made by the Obama campaign on January 24. "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

In three months Barrack's campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now having never having been a practicing Muslim.

First was the lie, now the semi-lie.

And, the original statement began, "To be clear ..."

Dissimulation and al-taqiyya as a political tactic.

What's with the semantics? Statements from Obama's campaign appear to have evolved, to say the least.
2007 From the New York Times, "Mr. Obama has written that when he became a Christian, he 'felt God's spirit beckoning' and 'submitted myself to His will and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.' While he has said he shares core Christian beliefs in God and in Jesus as his resurrected son."
2007 April 30th, The New York Times has a report on its front page about Obama's strained relationship with his pastor, also known as his "spiritual mentor." The Times does tend to downplay some of the harsher statements that Pastor Wright has made about Israel, Wright's support for Louis Farrakhan; trips to Libya and more.

Pastor Wright is a supporter of Louis Farrakhan, and in 1984 traveled with him to visit Col. Muammar al-Gadaffi, an archenemy of Israel and America and a firm supporter of terror groups.

Wright has also been a severe critic of Israel. In his own words:

"The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for almost 40 years now. It took a divestment campaign to wake the business community up concerning the South Africa issue. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community up and to wake Americans up concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism."
2007 Sen. Barack Obama told a church convention Saturday that some right-wing evangelical leaders have exploited and politicized religious beliefs in an effort to sow division.

"Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and faith started being used to drive us apart," the Democratic presidential candidate said in a 30-minute speech before the national meeting of the United Church of Christ.
2007 For Obama the acknowledgment of his religious upbringing has not been forthcoming and despite all the evidence to the contrary Obama continues to deny the fact that he was ever a Muslim. In the alternative, Obama would apparently have us to believe that one can somehow embrace Christianity without having to renounce Islam

So is Barack Obama really a stealth Muslim masquerading as a Christian? That all depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Obama must answer this simple question. "Do you renounce Islam and accept Christ?

Did you know, he never has.
2007 On December 22nd, in a small-town café in Pleasantville, Omaha, Obama was asked a question that typically only circulates on the Internet.


As he sat down to have a slice of pie with a small group of potential voters and an elderly woman asked him about being Muslim.


"I've always been a Christian," the Illinois Democrat responded in true Clintonesque fashion, "I have never practiced [Islam]."

Even though his father was a Muslim. His stepfather is a Muslim. His grandfather was a Muslim, His step-grandmother is a Muslim. His half-brothers and sisters are Muslims. His 1st cousin Rail Odinga is a Muslim who conspired with Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya to install an Islamic government in Kenya, Obama insists he was never a Muslim.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "menjaji" (recitation of the Quran)." Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam." Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong'. (See 1971 and 1972, above.)

Yet, on his official campaign website, Obama has posted this statement, "Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity."

What was he for the 27 years before his alleged conversion if he wasn't a Muslim?
2007 An American Expat in Southeast Asia blog, written by an American who has lived in Indonesia for 20 years and has met with both the Taliban and al-Qaeda, contains the following:

"Barack Hussein Obama might have convinced some Americans that he is no longer a Muslim, but so far he has not convinced many in the world's most populous Muslim country who still see him as a Muslim and a crusader for Islam and world peace."

"Barack Hussein Obama's race, his staunch opposition to the war in Iraq, his sympathy to Islam and Muslims worldwide and his Muslim heritage receive the Indonesian media coverage. There is no mention of his apostasy."

"A good example of how some of the Indonesian media is reporting on Obama's religion can be found in the following."

"Ayah kandung Obama disebut-sebut seorang Muslim, dan Barack Obama juga disebutkan pernah memeluk Islam. Setalah tinggal di AS dan diasuh neneknya, Obama mengaku telah memeluk Kristen. Masalah agama apa yang sekarang dianut Obama, itu adalah prinsip dirinya yang harus dihormati siapapun. Dan hanya Obama sendiri yang tahu dan akan mempertanggungjawabkan di hadapan Tuhan yang diyakininya."

"begin my translation..."

"Obama's father was mentioned to be a Muslim and Barack Obama had embraced Islam. After living in the USA and being taken care of by his grandmother, Obama claimed to embrace Christianity. The problem with religion and what is now followed by Obama is a principal he himself must honor. And only Obama personally will account before God for his beliefs."

"What I found interesting in the article was the use of the word 'mengaku' when refering to Obama's conversion from Islam to Christianity. The word 'mengaku' in Indonesian means "claimed" and as such leaves the insinuation to the native Indonesian reader being that Obama might actually still be a Muslim.

But this is how Indonesians see Obama, they don't see him as an apostate at all, they see him as a crusader for the cause of Islam."
2008 The San Francisco Chronicle reported on February, 28th, that the IRS is investigating the United Church of Christ over a speech Obama gave at its national meeting last year after he became a candidate for president, the denomination said Tuesday.

In a letter the denomination received Monday, the IRS said "reasonable belief exists" that the circumstances surrounding the speech violated restrictions on political activity for tax-exempt organizations. The denomination has denied any wrongdoing.

The IRS said in the letter that it was concerned about articles posted on the church's Web site and on other sites stating that Obama had addressed nearly 10,000 people at the event. The agency also said Obama volunteers had staffed campaign tables "outside the center to promote his campaign."

Amy Brundage, an Obama spokeswoman, insisted the speech was not a campaign event. In the address, Obama spoke about his personal spiritual journey and had said that faith had been misused in the past to divide Americans, partly because of the Christian right.

Anonymous said...

we could have had two good choice candidates Governor mitt Romney/
Governor Mike Huckabee
Dear Faithful Friends,

Last night was a tough one for all of us. While Janet and I stood on the stage, we felt as if we were surrounded by a much larger family than our immediate family. We have been surrounded throughout the process by a large and growing family of faithful friends whose efforts in the campaign have humbled and amazed us day after day. I regularly wept or choked back tears just reading comments on the blog when I realized the sacrifices that so many have made for the campaign.

We had held out hope that we would win enough delegates to keep the contest going, but had vowed that if Senator McCain actually got the 1191 delegates, we would accept the will of the voters. In the end, the relentless hammering of the media that we "couldn't win" influenced enough voters and while we campaigned long and hard in the final states, it simply wasn't enough. I congratulate Senator McCain and will do what I can to assist him and influence him to take strong stands for issues that we conservatives cherish.

I don't see the long journey having reached its destination, but merely taking a detour. As my Marine friend Clebe McLary says, "I didn't lose--it's just that the game ended before I got finished playing."

In the immediate days ahead, we will be transitioning from campaign mode. For 14 months, there have been a lot of things put on hold in our lives. We have to join the many incredible people on our staff to figure out "what's next?" But this much I can tell you---we want to stay in touch and start now building a platform to continue addressing issues that brought us together in the first place.

Throughout my life, I've found that there are sometimes three possible answers to our prayers--"Yes," "No," or "Not Now." I would like to think our prayers were answered with a "Not Now."

We will keep our website up and as we transition, will want to create a way to keep in touch and continue the battle for our families, our freedom, and our future. We will also focus on assisting conservative Senate and House candidates, in places where we know our investment of time and energy can make a real difference. You can expect us to be active online as we do this and to regularly solicit your opinions and support. Too many big issues are at stake for us to sit on the sidelines.

In the immediate time, we have to make sure that we help our staff find ways to earn a living, and make sure that we don't lose the momentum of the past 14 months, but instead follow the plan:

REFLECT, REST, RENEW, and RE-BOOT!

I really welcome your input and thoughts during these coming days. Pray for us as we seek wisdom as to what steps we take now. Despite what some have thought, we really didn't have a "Plan B' in the wings--we always thought we'd be in this until the inauguration in January of 2009!

God has been so good to us! We can never fully express our gratitude for all you have done and how you have touched and blessed our lives. I truly hope I didn't let you down. I promise to you that I gave it all I had to the last minute and left it "all on the field." What is more amazing is how you were willing to be "poured out" to the point of empty in order to be with us all the way. I stand amazed by it all and overwhelmed with gratitude.

We will dust off, pick ourselves up off the canvas, and answer the bell for the next round, whatever that may be. We love you all, and trust that the journey has just begun!

With tired bodies and grateful hearts,

Mike and Janet Huckabee



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John Mccain vice president
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