Nursery and restaurant lobby say immigration rule could cost Oregon thousands of jobs
The “No Match” rule, created by the Department for Homeland Security, would require employers to electronically verify the status of their workers to determine if their social security number is on record with the Social Security Administration.
In a nutshell: the restraunt and nurery industries say they want people to be able to work using YOUR social security number which causes YOU a bunch of financial problems.
Kathy LeCompte, owner of Brook’s Tree Farm near Salem, said that she has followed the undocumented workforce issue for nearly 15 years and that the proposed federal rule as it stands now, leaves her and other business owners with an unsure future. She doesn’t know if she should expand her business or invest in equipment because she is not sure how long her employees will be around.
Man Kathy, I feel about as sorry for you as I do for the drug dealer who is "not sure if he should expand his territory" because his illegal grow operation could be discovered and burned. Kathy says that her employees are criminals using other people's social security numbers! She admits that she is breaking the law by hiring them! And we are supposed to feel sorry for her as the victim here!
You can contact her with constructive critizism here office@brookstreefarm.com
33 comments:
...I feel about as sorry for you as I do for the drug dealer...
Yeah, the drug dealer and, uhem, criminal being you, Daniel. This post seems to be filled with such irony. The difference between them being what you call "criminals" and you being a convicted criminal and drug dealer and felon is that they are benefitting the United States economy. You are just sucking precious air wasting bandwith. I suggest next time you see an undocumented immigrant that you shake their hand and thank them for keeping the U.S a float.
The Coalition for a Working Oregon is a PAC that wants to keep it's illegals.
These 20 companies have a total of 300,000 employees.
http://tinyurl.com/5gvl27
They've PR'd a study by an OSU Ag Econ prof that indicates that "eliminating undocumented workers cannot be expected to reduce the number of unemployed Oregonians. "The theory that the unemployment rate will drop with elimination of undocumented workers doesn't hold up," said Dr. Jaeger. "In fact, my analysis shows that due to the indirect effects on Oregon's economy, the number of jobs could actually decline in the short-term by 7.7 percent if this rule were implemented, which would include a loss of up to 76,000 jobs by legal domestic workers."
It's not posted on his website. So it's hard to critique the study. Usually, dividing by zero will get you any outcome you choose to find. Not saying, just haven't seen it yet.
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THESE ARE THE SAME CLAIMS MADE BY THE AG PEOPLE IN THE 1800'S, WHEN THAT GREAT REPUBLICAN, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, BANISHED SLAVERY.
These greedy pigs are trying to brainwash working Americans into submission to accept those stagnant wages and hopefully most of you won't fall for the propaganda BS.
So 25% are immigrants?
Then the other 75% ARE Americans that WILL do those jobs?
Do you smell a R.I.C.O. Lawsuit coming for these scumbags that admit they are violating Federal law? They are profting from the use of criminal organised activity.
So an undocumented immigrant is the same as an 1800's era slave? Well then, we should emancipate them so they can be 100% "free" citizen of the United States. Good point anon 9:57.
A RICO lawsuit will not be possible in the People's Republic of Oregon because Teddy the Useless will give all the criminals who are hiring criminals complete immunity from prosecution.
Kind of like Guillermo Bradbury striking enough signatures from petitions that he doesn't like or support.
If anyone should be subject to a RICO lawsuit, it should be Teddy the Useless and Bradbury.
That's "restaurant," "nursery," and "criticism," genius.
Scottiebill -- speaking of petitions, what is the status of the "Respect For Law" act? Did it get enough signatures to make it on to the ballot?
the truth said: they are benefitting the United States economy. What the hell? So, California is 16 billion in the hole and that is a benefit?
Americans being raped and murdered are a benefit? Remember those four kids in Minnesota, do you remember Dani Countryman? Their deaths are a benefit? You are one sick and twisted piece of shit.
The criminal alien kids stealing our kids education and what education our kids receive being dumbed down to their level?
They are keeping the US afloat. That is funny as hell. Do you really believe that or did you have your education stolen by the criminal alien children? If you are college educated, you need to get your money back.
oregonguy, look at this article. Booting the criminal aliens reduces crimes!
http://www.alipac.us/article3320.html
Here is one line that says it all:
"Prince William’s homicides declined by 43.8 percent, from 16 to nine, the incidence of rape increased by 33.3 percent, from 21 to 28, robberies declined by 22.5 percent, from 351 to 272, and aggravated assault declined by 18.2 percent, from 379 to 310, said the study released last week. "
the truth said is disappointed that 7 more people are alive. You are the one sucking precious air, you are an oxygen thief.
Uh, Dave01?
What you've written fails to rise to the level of a non sequitor.
What are you trying to say?
I work for a nursery and we have ZERO illegal immigrants. We're actually doing financially better than many of the nurseries and garden centers in the rest of the state. The nurseries would like you to believe they have to have those illegals to do their work. More likely is they have no liquidity when it comes to odd weather years (like this year) or they're just not very good business people.
As for restaurants, their practices are suspect already when they pay less than minimum wage for even non-illegals and force their employees to make up the difference through tips.
I would love to see illegal immigrants leave in droves because they can't get jobs. It would force our own citizens to grow up. You're fooling yourself if you think we need illegals to keep this country afloat. I'm still waiting for that recession.
Finally, Republicans are admitting that minimum wage to 10 bucks an hour is "slave" wages. Wow. We couldn't even expect that from honest Abe. I second it. Time for an emancipation of all illegal immigrants. They can now be full U.S. citizens.
If your business model is such that the future expansion of your business is reliant upon wether or not the Gov't makes you verify Social Security Numbers, then you're going to have problems expanding no matter what.
A business model that is reliant on illegal labor, is doomed to failure anyway. Your business can basically be shuttered simply by the Feds enforcing existing immigration laws that you are violating in order to stay in business.
Simply not a smart way to operate.
Yeah, I am with you, dude. Fuck her.
Anon 3:07, "Work for a Nursery"
CONTACT OFIR PLEASE, WE NEED EMPLOYERS IN SIMILAR BUSINESS THAT ARE UNFAIRLY COMPETING WITH THESE CORRUPT EMPLOYERS.
www.oregonir.org or 503-435-0141
Your info will be held in privacy
Yeah, contact OFIR, a racist organization riddled with white supremecy and hatred. I bet they need to hold membership private or secret, just like the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
My day is always brightened when I hear from Anthony "INS/FBI Statistical Report" DeLucca.
So, you left-wingers complained that the "Republicans" weren't serious about immigration reform because they wanted the cheap labor, and you are hearing from the grass roots that they don't want these people under any circumstances where such is unlawful. Now what? Out of criticism? Out of ideas? If someone wants to control the border through orderly immigration, they are per se racist?
Well, fuck you. What the fuck do you know. Go and drink more of your socialist/communist kool-aid. no one gives a fuck about you, so fuck off already, you dumb mother fuckers. lol
Hey anon11:47, read the website dimball. If OFIR is stacked with a racist organization, then they are not racist? Please. Go take YOUR koolaid crap somewhere else cause we ain't drinkin' it.
I don't read that website. I rarely read any website. Waste of time. And drink my piss you fucking left-winger fucknut. You dodged the issue I presented completely, you fucknut.
You people are fucking morons.
Anon 11:09, LIAR BIG F-ing LIAR.
OFIR has nothing to do with nor EVER has w/ new nation.
Yeah, the drug dealer and, uhem, criminal being you, Daniel: said old ANON.
Hey...go to your next LA RAZA meeting on a bike..I love a target rich enviroment when I drive a truck that will not stop on a dime.
Anonymous said...
So an undocumented immigrant is the same as an 1800's era slave? Well then, we should emancipate them so they can be 100% "free" citizen of the United States.
A citizen of the USA...NOT UNTIL THEY PASS ALL THE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO. "PRESS ENGLISH FIRST!"
anti-klan said...
Yeah, contact OFIR, a racist organization riddled with white supremecy and hatred. I bet they need to hold membership private or secret, just like the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
9:59 PM
HEY ASS---- IT MAY COME TO THAT!
If you have to fight for the defence of your country(it's not theirs) I SURE AS HELL WILL FIGHT!
Are you ready to die for a cause?
some business have been depending (or been breaking the law) for so long that it has become the norm.
in the case of the illegal alien, the INS I-9 form, was designed to prove to an employer that a worker has the right to work in the US is a system that has failed.
employers are required to keep this form on file for inspection and is not submitted to any government agency.
additionally, an employer is not required to verify the authenticity of the documents submitted for ID.
falsely using someone else's SSN is a federal offense that effects the REAL owner of the SSN, and is a law that is not enforced.
keep in mind that it is because of illegal aliens using false or stolen documents is the ONLY reason that we have laws requiring verifiable proof for employment.
So I agree with Daniel for not feeling sorry for Kathy or any business that cannot not survive by taking advantage of other people (eg illegals) and not following the laws that apply to everyone.
Some constructive criticism, Mr. Miglavs: It's "criticism," not "critizism." I assume you're interested, since your only response lately to anyone was, instead of addressing the substance of their criticisms, was to point out one of their typos.
The current presidential candidates are currently pandering to the real racists-La Raza. According to Terry Anderson, they are nothing but the "Klan with a tan".
"All for the race. Nothing for anyone else". It doesn't get any clearer than that.
anti-klan
how is the new nation site racist? I briefly looked at it and only saw information and articles. I could be missing something as I do not have time now.
Could you provide evidence of their racism?
Don't forget the definition of racism:
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
EL PLAN DE AZTLÁN
How is the above a problem?
Let me count the ways!!!!
3. EDUCATION must be relative to our people, i.e., history, culture, bilingual education, contributions, etc. Community control of our schools, our teachers, our administrators, our counselors, and our programs.
4. INSTITUTIONS shall serve our people by providing the service necessary for a full life and their welfare on the basis of restitution, not handouts or beggar's crumbs. Restitution for past economic slavery, political exploitation, ethnic and cultural psychological destruction and denial of civil and human rights. Institutions in our community which do not serve the people have no place in the community. The institutions belong to the people.
5. SELF-DEFENSE of the community must rely on the combined strength of the people. The front line defense will come from the barrios, the campos, the pueblos, and the ranchitos. Their involvement as protectors of their people will be given respect and dignity. They in turn offer their responsibility and their lives for their people. Those who place themselves in the front ranks for their people do so out of love and carnalismo. Those institutions which are fattened by our brothers to provide employment and political pork barrels for the gringo will do so only as acts of liberation and for La Causa. For the very young there will no longer be acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts.
6. CULTURAL values of our people strengthen our identity and the moral backbone of the movement. Our culture unites and educates the family of La Raza towards liberation with one heart and one mind. We must insure that our writers, poets, musicians, and artists produce literature and art that is appealing to our people and relates to our revolutionary culture. Our cultural values of life, family, and home will serve as a powerful weapon to defeat the gringo dollar value system and encourage the process of love and brotherhood.
7. POLITICAL LIBERATION can only come through indepen-dent action on our part, since the two-party system is the same animal with two heads that feed from the same trough. Where we are a majority, we will control; where we are a minority, we will represent a pressure group; nationally, we will represent one party: La Familia de La Raza!
1 and 2. where more of the same RACIST BS.
Radical Islamist will kill you with AK47'S THE La Raza bunch will do it with babies and PC IDIOTS LIKE OBAMA, AND SAM ADAMS FOR A START.
For the very young there will no longer be acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts.
IN CASE YOU MISSED THIS ONE...
why do you openly hire illegal aliens and encourage ID fraud. you should be arrested and your business confiscated . traitor
I just went to her web site for Brooks tree farm and found the about us link .easy to send a message
Here is a sample letter to print and mail to ICE etc.
This woman has admitted to a crime and needs a Big ICE Raid
Department of Homeland Security
Immigration & Customs Enforcement
Attn: Investigations
511 NW Broadway Portland Oregon
97209
July 16, 2008
Dear Investigations
In an the following newspaper excerpt on Illegals and fake id in the nursery industry in Oregon,
Kathy LeCompte of Brooks tree farm admitted that she knew the illegals working for her were using
Fake id and were illegal and she had no problem with this.
Kathy LeCompte, owner of Brook’s Tree Farm near Salem, said that she has followed the undocumented workforce issue for nearly 15 years and that the proposed federal rule as it stands now, leaves her and other business owners with an unsure future. She doesn’t know if she should expand her business or invest in equipment because she is not sure how long her employees will be around
This could be a huge ICE raid. I am sure the IRS would also like to take a look at the books.
Thank you,
Fed Up in Oregon
CC Kathy LeCompte
CC Internal Revenue Service
CC Department of Justice
CC Lou Dobbs Co/ CNN
Trasha -- don't you have some hookers to ogle on Craigslist or something?
I e-mailed Kathy yesterday and told her to keep her chin up. We also had a good laugh over your pathetic website.
Go hoard some food or something Trasha.
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