181.850. (1) No law enforcement agency of the State of Oregon or of any political subdivision of the state shall use agency moneys, equipment or personnel for the purpose of detecting or apprehending persons whose only violation of law is that they are persons of foreign citizenship [residing] present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.
Men held in death are illegal immigrants
Two cousins accused of killing a teenager during her visit to Oregon acknowledged entering the country illegally from Mexico, a federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement official said.
One of the men, Alejandro Rivera Gamboa, 24, went unnoticed by immigration officials even though he was arrested four times on drunken driving charges since 2000, The Oregonian newspaper reported.
ORS 181.850 needs to be repealed in the "emergency" session that the Oregon legislature will be convening next year. Making law eforcement cover their eyes to crime is not keep our community safe. This is a horrible statute that is only supported by criminals and those who make excuses for them.
I would also argue to any potential rogue public officials/law enforcement that by definition someone who is in this country illegaly is violating more than just that law. Just by getting a job they break numerous other laws. Arrest them, deny them services, call ICE, do something.
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But they'll use that money to specifically set up employment for them by creating day labor sites.
Hypocrites.
There is a story in today's edition of The Seattle Times about some Russian and Armenian immigrants, some illegal, who stole credit card numbers, used them to program gift cards and bought post stamps, which they later resold. Identity theft is an awful crime that can screw up your credit for years. But at least you are still alive. I'd like to know if illegal immigrants who are not from Mexico, Latin or South America commit the same amount of serious crimes as out friends from the South. We are all against illegal immigration for one reason or another but maybe there is some truth to the complaint coming from the illegal immigrants’ defenders that we specifically target Latinos. It could be their number -- they are just the most visible at least around here -- but it could also be the fact that the crimes they commit are of the most atrocious kind. Personally, I would deport any LEGAL immigrant for any felony he commits before becoming a citizen but maybe some people are more tolerant of some crimes and let illegals from Poland, Russia and other non-latin countries off the hook.
Any legal immigrant who is not a citizen should absolutely be deported for any felony no matter where they are from. We don't need to bring those kind of people.
I agree whole heartedly. One of the reasons that I chose to resign my commission as a Police Officer was for just this reason.
The jurisdiction in California where I was employed, was absolutely RIFE with illegal aliens. The department I was with had a policy that amounted to a don't ask policy. I wasn't even allowed to contact immigration when I had an admitted illegal alien in custody on other charges.
THis allowed the suspect to slip through the revolving door of the local judicial system, and promptly go about targeting new victims. I can't count the number of repeat offenders that I dealt with on a nightly basis who admit that they are in the country illegally. I distinctly remember one scrote-sac whom I arrested 27 times within a one year period for car prowl.
It made me nuts to think that he would be gone if I could just get INS involved. At least he'd be out of the loop for a couple of weeks, and maybe some of the good citizens wouldn't have to deal with stolen stereos, speakers, and air bags.
This is a BAD law that needs to be abandoned and repealed before one more innocent is made a victim at the hands of an illegal alien.
" ... persons whose only violation of law is that they are persons of foreign citizenship [residing] present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws."
Honestly? If that really is their only violation, then I really can't bring myself to give a shit. Live and let live, baby. The only laws that ought to be repealed are those that keep human beings from moving from one country to another without the governments of either fucking with them. A true conservative ought to feel the same way.
"I will not rest until tax cheats... I mean war profiteers... no, wait, I mean "democratic" government employed torturers... or, wait, I mean unitary executive Presidents ignoring the laws passed by Congress... no, wait, actually I mean illegal immigrants, yeah, that's right!... until they are treated like the criminals they are!"
Yes, yes, let's not fry the big fish. Let's go after the poor, the sick, the women and children and elderly. That's what Jesus would have us do, after all.
so, wallace and brian moon(bat), which part of illegal don't you understand?
I will not rest until...well, I will just let you read the list below. The RNC (Raping our Nations Children) and the GOP (Grand 'ol Pedophiles) should be listed side be investigated for aiding and abetting child molestation.
• Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
• Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
• Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
• Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
• Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
• Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
• Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
• Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
• Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
• Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
• Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
• Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
• Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
• Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
• Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
• Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
• Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
• Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
• Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
• Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
• Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
• Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
• Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
• Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
• Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
• Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
• Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
• Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
• Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
• Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
• Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
• Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
• Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
• Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
• Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
• Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
• Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
• Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
• Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
• Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
• Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
• Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
• Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
• Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
• Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
• Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
• Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
• Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
• Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
• Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
• Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
• Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
• Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
• Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
• Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
• Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
• Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
• Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
• Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
• Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
• Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
http://armchairsubversive.com
Should have read:
I will not rest until...well, I will just let you read the list below. The RNC (Raping our Nations Children) and the GOP (Grand 'ol Pedophiles) should be investigated for aiding and abetting child molestation.
• Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
• Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
• Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
• Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
• Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
• Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
• Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
• Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
• Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
• Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
• Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
• Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
• Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
• Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
• Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
• Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
• Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
• Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
• Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
• Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
• Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
• Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
• Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
• Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
• Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
• Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
• Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
• Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.
• Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
• Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
• Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
• Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.
• Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
• Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
• Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.
• Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
• Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
• Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
• Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
• Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
• Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
• Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
• Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
• Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
• Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
• Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
• Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
• Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
• Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
• Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
• Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
• Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
• Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
• Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
• Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
• Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
• Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
• Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
• Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
• Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
• Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
• Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
• Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
• Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.
http://armchairsubversive.com
gotta love those lefty trolls. Apparently they understand nothing about the word illegal. but at least they reveal themselves through their gibberish.
Figures the racist crowd would choose a girl who was partying with drug addicts and was banging an "illegal alien" as a poster child. Anything to the extend of riding someone to their grave to further your anti-latino agenda.
YOU REALLY,REALLY,REALLY NEED A HOBBY MAN!!
Well look here I guess the 4:20 crowd finally woke. Hey guys you wrote all this crap yesterday.Why don't you look up all the illegal activity of the democratic party or do think they never do anything illegal like Tommy Potter and his followers letting two more illegals stay here and kill Danny Countryman.What will your attitude be if the victim is someone in your family or do you think your immune because of your party affiliation.
Let me understand this. Are we now blaming the girl who was raped and killed? Are we willing to defend illegal Latinos no matter what they do? This is eerily similar to what the left says about Muslims: it's our fault they do bad things.
OK ... Republicans are soft on pedophiles AND illegal aliens. "Birds of a feather" y'know. I hope none of the leftist assholes who post here think we're all fans of the Republican party. Cause that would be ... well, stupid.
This was somebody's child I don't care what your political beliefs are. Maybe we should let them out so they can rape and murder a member of your family and then maybe you'll get your head out. By the way being latino is not illegal being here illegally is or don't you understand the differance.
Woodburn is loaded with Illegal Aliens from Russia and they are more dangerous as they have greater intelligence and can thus more easily avoid detection.
Using drugs and going drunk crazy as do the Indigenous people of Mexico is not a problem for them.
If the russians in woodburn are so undetectable how is it that you know about them,unless you are one of them yourself.
I see another left-winger has spammed the board. Idiots. Deport all of these people. Daniel is right, time to get rid of the law in question. That law makes the entire state of Oregon a sanctuary State. Screw that.
Isn't this just like a republican pedophile, blaming the victim:
Convicted molester Curtin says his attackers should be charged
Andrew Scott
Pocono Record Writer
July 27, 2007
STROUDSBURG — Former Monroe County Republican state committeeman John Curtin was convicted of molesting a 17-year-old boy outside a Stroudsburg hotel in August 2005, but charges have not been filed against the victim and another man for assaulting Curtin on the night of the incident.
Curtin, his attorney and supporters call this a double-injustice and are demanding the police and District Attorney's Office charge his attackers.
Curtin remains free on bail, with his sentencing stayed for possibly a year pending his appeal of the March jury conviction.
I wonder if people, especially people on the left who are defenders of the illegal scum like the 2 in Milwaukie, would be blaming the victim if she were a minority who was in a similar situation and the 2 attackers were white trashers who were out on parole when they should have been in jail?
No.....you would be hearing all of their sob stories and vigils being held and fingers being pointed all around as there should be. The bottom line is that these 2 scum should not have been in the country to begin with. And Teddy and Tom and politicians like them make it a lot easier for them to work, and kill in this case, under the radar.
Bear, I am perfectly aware of what "illegal" means. I also know that at various times in our history, it has been "legal" for one human being to "own" other human beings, it was legal for the King of England to tax "his" colonies, it was illegal for women to vote, it was legal to discriminate based on race and it was illegal to make or consume alcohol. I also know that if you scour the statute books of various American cities, you will find all sorts of ridiculous laws. Until the 1970s, for example, it was illegal to show movies in Eugene on Sunday nights. In Oregon, it is illegal to pump your own gas.
Here's a fair and balanced news flash for you, pal: Times change. Societies evolve. If you read my post carefully (although I've given up hope, frankly, that conservatives read anything carefully) you ought to be able to reasonably deduce that I DO object to those crimes committed by undocumented workers (as I would if they were committed by anyone else) that actually HARM other people -- assault, theft, DUII, etc. And if you aren't reasonable enough to deduce that on your own, then let me just say, for the record, that I DO.
But if their only "crime" is walking from point A on the Mexican side of the border to point B on the American side -- and that, by the way, isn't even a crime, technically, it's an infraction -- then I think that's worthy of the same amount of attention as someone in Eugene showing a movie on Sunday night. What the fuck do you care where people live and work, as long as they don't bother others and mind their own business?
Wallace, the problem is not so much that the illegals are working here. It is that they are not very good guests. Imagine a uninvited guest in your house that eats all of your food, fills your living room with all of their numerous relatives, refuses to speak your language, sends all of their money back to their homeland while pledging allegiance to wherever they came from, insists on you paying for their medical care and their schooling, asks you to bail them out of jail and to pay for their lawyer, etc.
Get the point??
95 percent of the world's wealth is owned by 5 percent of the world's population, and yet you've worked yourself into a cold sweat because "illegal aliens" are -- pardon me while I laugh out loud -- eating "all" of our food, sending "all" of their pay to Mexico, etc.
Listen up, pal: The VAST majority of "illegal aliens" never go to jail because they are never arrested because they never do any of the horrible shit that Miglavs posts on his blog every day, crimes that a tiny minority of the whole commit. They never ASK you to pay for their attorneys because they don't NEED an attorney. And, I don't know what the situation is in your neck of the woods, but I have never had the experience of going to a grocery store and being told that they're all out of an item because "illegal aliens" bought them. Give me a fucking break!
Nevertheless, if we're going to react to the whole based on the actions of a few, I'll take you up on it: I propose that we ban the Republican Party in the United States. Being a Republican ought to be illegal. Why? Look at the list above. You motherfuckers obviously are out of control: Raping our kids, sexual assault, molestation, child pornography. I've had it with you assholes. You're a threat to society.
I will not rest until Republicans are treated like the criminals they are! Get the point?
Yes, anonymouse, I for one get the point.
Only trouble is, it's a stupid point.
Hey wallace maybe one of these illegals can take your job so you can get a new one pumping gas in my car.
Only trouble is, it's a stupid point.
Yes ... and that is my point. So no ... you didn't get it.
"Illegal" workers Bad. Republican Pedophiles Good. Talking about the pot calling the kettle black. Please...
Who says Republican pedophiles are good? Are you trying to say that because some Republicans are bad we can't judge anybody? That's moral relativism and unless stopped will be undoing of this great country.
Request to "Moderator": Remove all repetitive posts; if repeated, ban poster.
"12:10 said...
Yes ... and that is my point. So no ... you didn't get it."
*Sigh.* No, that wasn't your point.
Another Republican Pedophile, Ted Klaudt, to deport. Developing story:
New evidence surfaces against former lawmaker Ted Klaudt
By The Associated Press
SIOUX FALLS -- State investigators who have analyzed a computer used by a former state lawmaker accused of rape and other sex crimes say Ted Klaudt, 49, attempted the online solicitation of young girls.
Ted Klaudt leaves the Meade County Courthouse on July 20 after being arraigned on a variety of rape charges. (Journal file photo)
The Walker rancher allegedly used the name "studman" in one instance to ask a 14-year-old girl to send webcam photos of herself.
And he allegedly used the name "thephotoman" while pretending to be a 21-year-old modeling agent, supposedly asking a 15-year-old girl to send photos for a pornographic movie.
Authorities say those allegations are given credence by an interview with an 18-year-old female who said Klaudt offered to take photos of her and a 16-year-old sister with sex toys in order to build modeling portfolios.
The charges against Klaudt, both in Corson County, where he lives, and Hughes County while he was in the Legislature, involve girls in foster care. At least one of the allegations involved a girl when she was a page during a lawmaking session.
Klaudt, a Republican, has pleaded not guilty to all of the charges. Each rape count carries a maximum punishment of 25 years in prison.
The teenage girls told authorities that Klaudt touched their breasts and penetrated their vaginas during exams for a scheme in which he said they could make money by selling their reproductive eggs.
Oct. 30 has been set as the start of Klaudt's trial in Hughes County. No trial date has yet been established on the Corson County charges.
Listen up A-12:10 - you aren't speaking for the people -- the people of the USA are being screwed daily by your benign work-force! Your pal’s are robbing the mass of (North) American’s of their opportunity to support themselves – while those American’s continue to support the system. As your illegal bud’s suck up entry level jobs – they’re killing our nation from the bottom up!
If you're truly after the boogiemen on top – help eliminate their near-slave labor force! The same 'labor force' supported by taxes on the average working man and woman! And if you really give a damn about your supposed pal's to the South - head down there (try illegally) and organize their workforce like my grandparents organized ours! Or shut the fuck up!
And guess who's talking to you Asshole -- a Populist Democrat! Dig that you phony-socialist prick!
And if you wanna talk crime - every Illegal that's in this country broke the law with their first step! If you’re only into what ‘degree’ - that's simply a guise. And as you've "had it" with the R's -- you'd best have your ass ready to be kicked more discreetly by the next tier - The D's! The US ain’t like P-Town…
The list of things liberals must do to be taken seriously:
1) Learn that endless cutting and pasting from wacko left wing sites only reinforces the conclusion that you are incapable of original thought.
2) Visit a foreign land, see how far tolerance goes elsewhere as far as handouts for illegal aliens. You would be surprised.
3) Understand that if coming to a country illegally, working illegally, and getting government benefits illegally is no big deal to you, then it will be very hard to understand your anger at businesses maintaining hazardous working conditions or not following minimum wage laws. Stupid is as stupid does.
4) Figure out that no matter how you slice it the left owns pedophilia, after defending Gerry Studs, Mel Reynolds, Neil Goldschmidt et. al. its all yours baby!
Hey Refuse,
Are you just in denial about your party being the party of pedophiles or are you just a stupid backwater hick nativist that molests children too and needs the cover of railing against undocumented Americans?
Is there a point to all of the left leaning troll posts? Is the point to prove that you are JUST smart enough to cut and paste a post that's been cut and pasted here about a dozen times?
Do us all a favor and go back to eating your bowl of Fruit Loops and watching the Cartoon Network.
Maybe they don't need attorneys for commiting a felony,but if there in the country illegal they most likely are not paying any taxes for anything which means they are stealing money.I guess a good solution to that problem is you give them you bank account number and they can use your money from now on.
And the award for the weekend's dumbest insult goes to Anthony DeLucca, for his entry:
Do us all a favor and go back to eating your bowl of Fruit Loops and watching the Cartoon Network.
Congratulations, Anthony!
Anthony "Fast Tony" DeLucca, do us all a favor and go back to selling your cheap used cars to the white trash of Gresham.
When it comes to these left-wing idiots coming in here with their garbage, you basically have two choices. The first is to ignore it. If you ignore these idiots, they will eventually go away. By responding to them, you allow them to deflect the issue and hijack the discussion. Now, if you really can't ignore them, then the second option is to give them a hearty FUCK YOU. Why? Well, you can't argue with their stupidity and if you can't ignore them, you might as well as tell them what you really think, succinctly. So instead of engaging them, just give them them the mighty FUCK YOU and be done with it. I still recommend ignoring them, however.
Hmm...jeez you liberal screwups, you would think that all the criminals in world are Republicans, and there is some connection between Republicanism and pedophilia. I suppose you could argue that there is actually a SCANDAL when a Republican does what your party openly advocates, but I digress.
In case you were thinking you are the vanguard of some sort of Party of Holiness, a simple web search will tell you of such notables as Gary Condit, who likely murdered his young intern mistress, Ted Kennedy, who drunkenly killed a young woman and is now the face of the party when they want to drum out some ridiculous left wing attack, or congressman William Jefferson who had a bunch of "cold" cash hidden in his freezer from bribes, or Alcee Hastings, only the 6th federal judge to ever be impeached by Congress (a Democrat congress) for corruption and perjury - only to later be elected as a Democrat congressman.
And we shant discuss Robert KKK Byrd, former high official in the Klan, who only a couple of years ago used the word "nigger" on Fox News (so don't go thinking he is reformed), who the Democrats refer to as the "conscience of hte Senate".
And we probably shoudln't mention congressman Barney Frank, who allowed a gay prostitute he hired to live with him and run a gay prostitution ring out his house. What is he now...a committee chair?
Or Neil Goldscmidt, who corrupted the entire Democrat party of Oregon, and who was using the government for his own ATM machine. Oh, and who also raped a 14 year old girl and caused her to be a drug addict the rest of her life.
IF you are proud of all that, you probably also should be proud of your Party being opposed to every major REAL civil rights achievement in history. Look it up. That's why none of those people with landmark civil rights achievements were Dems. The Democrats were the ones with the silly white sheets on their heads.
In case, though, you need an Internet cut n paste of Democrat scandals similar to the list you gave us (and I know a number of the things said in htat list are crap, but a lot of them are also true and that disgusts me), here you go.
I'm sure being a member of the party or ideology of open mindedness you will repent and apologize for generalizing about people in the manner you did.
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William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.
James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.
Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.
Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.
Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.
Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.
George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.
Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison
Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.
John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison
Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.
Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.
Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.
Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.
Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.
Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.
James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.
John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.
Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.
David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.
Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.
Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute
Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.
Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.
David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.
James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.
Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.
William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.
Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.
Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.
Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.
Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.
Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.
Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.
Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use
Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.
Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.
Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.
George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.
Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury
Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.
Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.
Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.
Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.
Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.
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