tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post3664445979421107944..comments2024-02-19T00:14:24.293-08:00Comments on Daniel's political musings: Send us your tired, your weary... your methDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14946233454014389006noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-50541206489718970202008-04-13T22:30:00.000-07:002008-04-13T22:30:00.000-07:00Dear Max: You said I claimed that CPD intends to: ...Dear Max:<BR/> <BR/>You said I claimed that CPD intends to: "...deprive citizens of their right to peaceful assembly in protest of illegal alien day-labor sites..." I said no such thing.<BR/> <BR/>I posted that I have been assured in writing, that: <BR/> <BR/>a) There will be a better police presence at all future demonstrations.<BR/> <BR/>b) There will be no taunting or confrontational contact allowed by protesters from EITHER side of the street.<BR/> <BR/>Max -- how does this translate into your version:<BR/> <BR/>"... deprive citizens of their right to peaceful assembly in protest of illegal alien day-labor sites..." <BR/> <BR/>Wow. That's some interpretation of "no taunting or confrontational contact," Max! Wow! Translate any golden tablets lately? Actually I think the phrase they used was "provocative confrontation" and that in the future there would be no crossing the street by EITHER side for the purpose of provocation.<BR/> <BR/>Who said ANYTHING about depriving ANYONE of their right to assemble? NOT ME. NOT CORNELIUS PD.<BR/> <BR/>You are grossly misrepresenting what I said, Max, I think in the common vernacular that is also called lying.<BR/> <BR/>Not to worry Max, I'll locate my letter. At which point I will be GLAD to get a copy to you.<BR/> <BR/>As I said, I was told Daniel (or OFIR) would also be contacted, so it could very well be that he/they already has a copy of the letter or one similar to it. <BR/><BR/>As far as scorn and derision heaped upon those who "disagree with me," one can hardly arrive at the conclusion, after reading your posts, that you you are genial and open minded to those who disagree with you. Furthermore, you are hardly a saint when it comes to name calling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-63471075848760939172008-04-13T20:31:00.000-07:002008-04-13T20:31:00.000-07:00Snick:Please point out how I "gave myself away" as...Snick:<BR/><BR/><I>Please point out how I "gave myself away" as a liar? Where? When?</I><BR/><BR/>Here, at 2:03 p.m.<BR/><BR/><I>Following up on our meeting, I have been assured, in writing, that Daniel will not be allowed to taunt and toy with these people again.</I><BR/><BR/>I maintain that you have no such letter from CPD. As the late, great furrier "protests" that ran for over a year in Portland have clearly demonstrated, people who choose to protest are guaranteed considerable leeway in so doing - and as noted previously, Daniel's tactics have been quite the opposite of those involved in the Schumacher debacle.<BR/><BR/>As you have claimed to have received written notice of the intent of CPD to deprive citizens of their right to peaceful assembly in protest of illegal alien day-labor sites, I have called upon you to produce the document.<BR/><BR/>You make excuses. That's not an adequate substitute for your claim. It's unfortunate that you take great offense at being called a liar, but on the other hand, it should be noted that you appear to have no problem when it comes to offending others.<BR/><BR/>You heap derision upon the blog owner and upon commenters, but that's no big deal to you. Hey, if they disagree with you, they deserve scorn.<BR/><BR/>Then you screw up and claim that you have documentation of intent by CPD to deny the right to peaceful assembly. I counter that you do not have any such thing. In the common vernacular, this means that you are lying.<BR/><BR/>At least I suggest that you back up your claim. In return, you mumble excuses. You gripe about how upsetting it is to be called a liar. You whine.<BR/><BR/>In fact, with a bit of age, you could well be judged among Oregon's finest whines.<BR/><BR/>Do let us know if you ever happen to stumble across the document that you claimed to have in your possession.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-75355792655277807102008-04-13T18:15:00.000-07:002008-04-13T18:15:00.000-07:00As an "illegal alien-loving" lib, I support Daniel...As an "illegal alien-loving" lib, I support Daniel/OFIR's right to protest in Cornelius or anywhere else, but it is worth pointing out that if some of my "lib" buddies and I did at an OFIR rally <I>exactly</I> what OFIR does at day labor sites, then they would accuse us of "bullying" or "harrassing" them. Nevertheless, I will support the democratic rights of the anti-First Amendment hypocrite from Sherwood, even if he doesn't support mine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-44449118958396871452008-04-13T17:13:00.000-07:002008-04-13T17:13:00.000-07:00Max: Please point out how I "gave myself away" as ...Max: <BR/><BR/>Please point out how I "gave myself away" as a liar? Where? When?<BR/><BR/>I'm not a rich man, I'm not a handsome man, and I am not a particularly successful man if you go by today's standards. Lacking in all those things, I do take pride in a FEW good character traits, among them honesty. <BR/><BR/>I don't own a scanner or I would be happy to post it for all to see. <BR/><BR/>I believe I spoke with an Officer Jefferson, but I am not positve on the name. I also spoke with two additional people however, I am not sure they were officers. I will find the letter and let you know EXACTLY who I spoke with and EXACTLY who sent the letter. You will have to excuse my terrible memory with names. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure Officer Jefferson (again, not positive on the name) will be happy to speak with you, unless there's some sort of confidentiality regarding our visit, but I am not aware of that.<BR/><BR/>I'll find the letter soon and let you know...<BR/><BR/>I don't lie and I take great offense at being called a liar, Max.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-18513356218538147982008-04-13T16:41:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:41:00.000-07:00Following up on our meeting, I have been assured, ...<I>Following up on our meeting, I have been assured, in writing, that Daniel will not be allowed to taunt and toy with these people again.</I><BR/><BR/>Snick,<BR/><BR/>You gave yourself away. I'm calling you out as a liar.<BR/><BR/>Care to scan in and post that written assurance from the CPD?<BR/><BR/>Of course not. Because you can't.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-57702931016380138942008-04-13T16:08:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:08:00.000-07:00PS -- if you saved all 6 of his/her threatining po...PS -- if you saved all 6 of his/her threatining posts then by all means share them w/us. if you have them saved it be very easy for you to cut & paste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-50085992974306207982008-04-13T16:04:00.000-07:002008-04-13T16:04:00.000-07:00Anon 948:How do you tell which cabrons are born US...Anon 948:<BR/><BR/>How do you tell which cabrons are born US citizens, which <BR/>cabrons are naturalized US citizens, which cabrons are here legally, and which cabrons are here illegally? Im just wondering, because you don't seem to make a distinction anywhere in your rants. Or are you that crazy nazi/white supremacist chick Snick@Night was writing about and you just go by color and/or surname?<BR/><BR/>Funny you have the nerve to whine and cry that Snick@Night is a bully after sharing your 5 step program. Yeah, after reading your final solution I can tell your "really nice."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-68563302832963598152008-04-13T12:08:00.000-07:002008-04-13T12:08:00.000-07:00the post about five steps to deal with the invasio...the post about five steps to deal with the invasion comes from another site- which was found on a pro-illegal site.<BR/> It's great ,because it cuts through all the crap like the Illegals have all made so many babies who are now legal so we can't deport them now , now can we?( Hussein Obama)<BR/> It does not come from OFIR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-74961370054527174902008-04-13T11:23:00.000-07:002008-04-13T11:23:00.000-07:00Essentially, what the Cornelius PD assures me is t...Essentially, what the Cornelius PD assures me is that <BR/><BR/>a) There will be a better police presence at all future demonstrations.<BR/><BR/>b) There will be no taunting or confrontational contact allowed by protesters from EITHER side of the street.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you will have to read this a few times and get a grown-up to help you sound out the big words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-31952261009450807232008-04-13T11:13:00.000-07:002008-04-13T11:13:00.000-07:00Anon 856:Fantasize much? I am a stalker and an int...Anon 856:<BR/><BR/>Fantasize much? I am a stalker and an internet bully? That's a good one. I OCASSIONALLY visit this blog(as you can see by my FEW posts). I find Miglav's stupidity both horrifying and entertaining at the same time -- sort of like a scary movie. There's a couple of cooking blogs I like. That's about it. Who, pray tell, am I "stalking?" <BR/><BR/>As for my visit with Cornelius PD, and the followup letter I received, NO WHERE in the letter does it state that OFIR will not be "allowed" to protest day labor sites, you idiot. Can't you read? Or is it just COMPREHENSION you have a problem with?<BR/><BR/>I don't think I need to send a letter to Daniel. I was told they would be sending a letter to HIM(or OFIR).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-45716162274899873002008-04-13T09:37:00.000-07:002008-04-13T09:37:00.000-07:00Can we get a response from OFIR on the "kill all c...Can we get a response from OFIR on the "kill all cabrons" comment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-45708654068712539132008-04-13T08:56:00.000-07:002008-04-13T08:56:00.000-07:00stalker and Internet bully snick at nite says he h...stalker and Internet bully snick at nite says he has a letter from the cornelius police department that states they will not allow OFIR to protest day labor in Cornelius anymore. Really?<BR/> please do send that letter to Daniel-because it violates civil rights and will get the CPD in big trouble.<BR/> also I like your statement about employers smashing Daniel's camera. Yes, that is exactly what those who hire illegals will do and so do illegals!<BR/> next, if ICE did a massive immigration raid and if the Justice department stopped employers from hiring illegals, Cornelius would be a ghost town.<BR/> so whose side is the CPD on?<BR/> Oregon is like Mississippi in the 40's with thugs like Snickatnite and his bully police friends.from the bully and bigot snickatnite""<BR/>I visited the Cornelius PD last week and showed them Daniel's most recent videos. They were not too happy, and we spoke at length.<BR/><BR/>It seems they received a few calls from people who viewed Daniel's videos right here on his blog, which I find rather funny. <BR/><BR/>The reason they didn't have a better presence at the demonstration was because they were shorthanded that day, but they have worked out a solution to that in the future, with another agency. <BR/><BR/>Following up on our meeting, I have been assured, in writing, that Daniel will not be allowed to taunt and toy with these people again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-53598717283431982302008-04-12T21:48:00.000-07:002008-04-12T21:48:00.000-07:00~~~~~~And Now for a Commercial Break from our Spon...~~~~~~And Now for a Commercial Break from our Sponsor~~~<BR/> Respect for law act – sign and circulate it<BR/> At www.oregonir.org - help remove the invaders<BR/>MujadoHunter's 5 Steps to Recovery: <BR/><BR/>1. Close the border, totally, to all immigration .. Man it with the military brought back from Iraq <BR/>2. No visas, they only over-stay them .. It’s like a free pass for illegal entry. No worker visas, no guest visas, no education visas .. Nothing. <BR/>3. Demand self-deportation .. Give them 30 days to leave the country. It took less time than that to get here. <BR/>4. Invalidate all applications for citizenship. Invalidate all green cards <BR/>5. Kill all cabrons on sight that remain after 30 days .. <BR/>6. Shoot any cabrons trying to enter the country illegally <BR/>7. Don't discriminate .. That is hateful ... <BR/><BR/> stoptheinvasionoforegonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-75419739498595004952008-04-12T20:53:00.000-07:002008-04-12T20:53:00.000-07:00Perhaps this should be the Absolut World.Perhaps this should be the <A HREF="http://heydudewheresmycountry.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Absolut World.</A>Bobkatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388159713103123175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-51618213361060821702008-04-12T16:43:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:43:00.000-07:00Anon-That is the only argument they have in suppor...Anon-That is the only argument they have in support of mass illegal immigration (the open border violent wacko's)-pretend no one can come here legally, pretend that 2 million a year legally is nothing. They pretend that mostly un skilled and illiterate needy peoples help the economy somehow forgetting that the opposite people pitch in the most to taxes & charities & self reliance and that is what really helps our economy.<BR/>And pretend that this is a racial issue, they use that lie all the time.<BR/>They have to lie and or make excuses because thats what they do when their ideas make no sense at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-22285708415993258472008-04-12T16:34:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:34:00.000-07:00Anon 4:27, Nice to know there is an American compa...Anon 4:27, Nice to know there is an American company supporting America for once and an added dose of true history for a change too as the open border violent wacko's in here always lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-3203246977788763042008-04-12T16:27:00.000-07:002008-04-12T16:27:00.000-07:00Fuck Absolut and you Pussy Liberals making excuses...Fuck Absolut and you Pussy Liberals making excuses for Illegal Immigration...<BR/><BR/>SKYY® Vodka, Made in the USA, Proudly Supports Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo<BR/><BR/>America’s Most-Popular Domestic Vodka Decries Absolut® Vodka’s Suggestion to Redraw North American Map<BR/><BR/>SAN FRANCISCO–(BUSINESS WIRE)–In 1848, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo officially ended the Mexican-America War (1846-1848). With the signing of this treaty, the United States gained control of what was to become the Golden West, including California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada and parts of Colorado and New Mexico. Today, SKYY® Vodka, the number-one vodka produced in the United States, spoke out against suggestions by Absolut® Vodka to disregard that treaty, as well as the joining of Texas to the Union in 1845, as depicted in Absolut’s recent advertising.<BR/><BR/>“Like SKYY Vodka, the residents of states like California, Texas and Arizona are exceptionally proud of the fact that they are from the United States of America,” said Dave Karraker, SKYY Vodka. “To imply that they might be interested in changing their mailing addresses, as our competitor seems to be suggesting in their advertising, is a bit presumptuous.”<BR/><BR/>In the ad, an “Absolut World” is depicted where the map of North America is re-drawn with Mexico claiming much of the Western United States, negating the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, as well as the Gadsden Purchase (1853), and the independence of Texas (1836).<BR/><BR/>“Don’t get me started on the Gadsden Purchase,” continues Karraker. “I think the folks in Tucson and Yuma would be rubbed the wrong way if they hear this landmark deal was somehow nullified as suggested by Absolut, a Swedish-owned brand.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-65169462454798745792008-04-12T15:25:00.000-07:002008-04-12T15:25:00.000-07:00Snick-sorry to disappoint. I only speak from the ...Snick-sorry to disappoint. I only speak from the rallies that I personally attended. The video posts do represent a large amount of verbal taunting but I don't think they are in any way confrontational. I have on the other hand witnessed occasions of verbal threats of violence from the other side however they were never returned by Daniel or Rick.Bobkatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388159713103123175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-4051272325177838872008-04-12T14:13:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:13:00.000-07:00Ditto for you Max. "unfailingly polite?" "absolute...Ditto for you Max. "unfailingly polite?" "absolute non-confrontation?" Yeah, that's what these videos portray, CLEARLY. I don't know how I missed it! LMAO. <BR/><BR/>Cornelius PD put it to me this way: "He's slick, he knows EXACTLY how far he can push it without getting arrested...and that's EXACTLY how far he goes..." <BR/><BR/>If that's your definition of "unfailingly polite," well, maybe in LaLa Land...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the grocery tips though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-23914553400455979772008-04-12T14:03:00.000-07:002008-04-12T14:03:00.000-07:00BobKatt: You're kidding! I know you're kidding. Yo...BobKatt: <BR/><BR/>You're kidding! I know you're kidding. You cant be serious, right? Tell me you're kidding. Your not serious, right? Right? Right? That's what I thought.<BR/><BR/>BobKatt, get real. You can't possibly expect any of us to buy that load of horseshit given the fact that exhibit after exhibit to the contrary is merely a click away on this blog. Pick a video that exemplifies his "non-confrontational" style. <BR/><BR/>Just tell me which one? Tell me. Tell me. Can you tell me? Watch them and tell me. Come on, you can tell me! You can't tell me? Really? Really? "That's what I thought." Now "Read me some English!"<BR/><BR/>I visited the Cornelius PD last week and showed them Daniel's most recent videos. They were not too happy, and we spoke at length.<BR/><BR/>It seems they received a few calls from people who viewed Daniel's videos right here on his blog, which I find rather funny. <BR/><BR/>The reason they didn't have a better presence at the demonstration was because they were shorthanded that day, but they have worked out a solution to that in the future, with another agency. <BR/><BR/>Following up on our meeting, I have been assured, in writing, that Daniel will not be allowed to taunt and toy with these people again. <BR/><BR/>I'm going to be there from now on to make sure that is the case. Not because I am on "their side" when it comes to entering our country illegally, but because I abhor Daniel's unchecked bigotry and bullying even more.<BR/><BR/>This really takes the cake BobKatt...and just when I was beginning to think you weren't half bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-7723459072952440292008-04-12T13:32:00.000-07:002008-04-12T13:32:00.000-07:00Max-you are correct from my point of view. I live...Max-you are correct from my point of view. I live in Eugene and have only been to one event that Daniel was at and three that Rick was at and both of them were very polite and non-confrontational. Compare this to the Schumacher fur protest in Portland or the Critical Mass rides and you have some insight.<BR/>Thanks to both of them for their efforts.Bobkatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388159713103123175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-32408600886586452402008-04-12T11:29:00.000-07:002008-04-12T11:29:00.000-07:00anon: On a less volatile note: You have a nose for...anon: <I>On a less volatile note: You have a nose for grocery bargains...any thing good this week? Im serious!</I><BR/><BR/>Like Lloyd's babyback ribs? I do, and these have generally risen in price to the $16 - $17 range per package. There's a Safeway coupon for $5 off on them with a $10 purchase. Pick up a Fresh Express Asian salad there for under $2.50, grab a couple of other items, and get your ribs for $12 or less.<BR/><BR/>Into Italian food? If so, you may have noticed that as more and more stores have gone to low-fat ground beef, you just can't make decent, authentic Italian meatballs any more. For that, you need at least 20% ground. And despite the rising costs of beef and other meats in general, New Seasons Market grinds their all-pasture-raised beef fresh daily. <BR/><BR/>One advantage: while other producers suffer as feed prices explode due to the diversion of corn to ethanol production, beef raised on pastureland don't impose the same costs. So you can pick up a pound of 20% ground at New Seasons for $3.29. 'At's-a somma meataball!<BR/><BR/>On Daniel - I recall seeing several videos not all that long ago over here, in addition to his frequent photo material. Granted, I'm too lazy to bother trying to search his blog, but I'm sure it can be done.<BR/><BR/>Some apparently wonder why he doesn't get beat up for taking photos and vido, and frankly, there are a number of reasons why that doesn't happen: for one thing, whenever there's a protest, there's generally an escalated police presence. The last thing illegals or their prospective employers want in such a situation is to initiate any sort of violence. In addition, Daniel is unfailingly polite during the course of his interactions. When he talks with them, he often gets them laughing. It's a reaction one generally doesn't associate with a protest venue, but it's effective.<BR/><BR/>Finally, he respects property rights: if the folks at El Centro, say, don't want protestors on the parking lot, he moves to public sidewalk areas without complaint or hesitation.<BR/><BR/>There are other examples, but in essence, his approach is one of absolute non-confrontation.<BR/><BR/>Unlike some of the anonymice here who would rather engage in name-calling and jeering from the safety of their home keyboards.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-21447752574481607182008-04-12T11:22:00.000-07:002008-04-12T11:22:00.000-07:00Justice does prevail when the Citizens remind the ...Justice does prevail when the Citizens remind the Politicians of who is boss, WE ARE!<BR/><BR/>Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:47 PM<BR/>Subject: Mecca School CANCELS Mobile Mexican Government Center<BR/><BR/><BR/>M E C C A S C H O O L C A N C E L S M O B I L E C E N T E R<BR/>Emails and telephone calls began to Mecca School on Monday, April 7.<BR/>The Mecca School Vice Principal called MMP National Rally Spokesman this afternoon, April 9, size="+1" color="#FF0000"> CANCELLED the mobile Mexican government center.<BR/>Herrera said the Vice Principal had a "sheepish" tone of voice.<BR/>THANK YOU FOR CALLING and EMAILING - the California Department of Education and Superintendent's office. Staff at the Superintendent's office said they have been inundated with calls and begged for the calls to stop....<BR/><BR/><BR/>The entire School Dostrict is now OFF LIMITS for the Mexican Consulate and sale of the stealth Amnesty Matricula Card.<BR/><BR/>Americans have had it with this invasion and when they demand it to stop, like the Senate bill last summer, it does stop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-65999428291754948262008-04-12T08:34:00.000-07:002008-04-12T08:34:00.000-07:0010:16-Thanks for that o so enlightening piece! It ...10:16-<BR/>Thanks for that o so enlightening piece! It seems you have figured it out, just like Daniel, max and OFIR. Keep on truckin'! Your making such a difference! Illegals just seem to be diapering left and right. I can't hardly find em any more. And their employers? Boy, they just don't need to higher cheap labor these days!<BR/>Thanks for the hard work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-26946771253640484762008-04-11T22:16:00.000-07:002008-04-11T22:16:00.000-07:004:47. You need to learn a bit of critical thinking...4:47. You need to learn a bit of critical thinking. It makes good sense to target the employers of illegals just like it makes sense to target the drug dealers vs. the users.<BR/><BR/>Why do you think agencies like the DEA will offer deals to the users in an attempt to get them to turn on their suppliers? Got nothing? It's to get the traffickers off the street, which not only gets a larger amount of drugs off the street, it sends a message to those who are enabling those committing lesser crimes that they will get caught.<BR/><BR/>Now, if you take that mentality and apply it to the illegals in this country, why wouldn't you try to stop the employers from picking up someone who is not here legally, who is taking jobs away from citizens, who is not paying income tax, who is... well, you get the idea... or do you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com