tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post115098502097680613..comments2024-02-19T00:14:24.293-08:00Comments on Daniel's political musings: Suggested reading in Lane CountyDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14946233454014389006noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1152392105815965082006-07-08T13:55:00.000-07:002006-07-08T13:55:00.000-07:00Hi Blogger, I found your blog quite informative.I ...Hi Blogger, I found your blog quite informative.<BR/>I just came across your blog and wanted to<BR/>drop you a note telling you how impressed I was with it.<BR/>I give you my best wishes for your future endeavors.<BR/>If you have a moment, please visit my <A HREF="http://www.travel-center.ws" REL="nofollow">accommodation sorrento</A> site.<BR/>Have a great week!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1152331268301779922006-07-07T21:01:00.000-07:002006-07-07T21:01:00.000-07:00Hi Fellow! I was just searching blogs,and I found ...Hi Fellow! 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So while there were a couple unissued liquor licenses available, the town would not allow any additional liquor licenses in the student area. Note that in the case of population decline, unissued liquor licenses can disappear entirely, if the local allocation is reduced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151120103276550922006-06-23T20:35:00.000-07:002006-06-23T20:35:00.000-07:00I fully understand that only minorities are discri...I fully understand that only minorities are discriminated against, and that whites get all the "privileges". That would explain why, when my husband and two other men were being cheated on their wages, they had to sue the employer privately. You see, BOLI would do absolutely *nothing* to help them. They were too busy helping a bunch of nurses who weren't getting paid because a hospital in Cottage Grove closed. I understand that .. estrogen trumps testosterone in our country. And after BOLI helped solve that crisis, my husband and his co-workers still couldn't get any help because BOLI was helping a bunch of illegal immigrant Christmas tree salesmen/delivery men collect on wages because *they* were being cheated. I guess BOLI understood "white privilege", too and figured that these three men had enough money in reserves to handle the expense of a lawyer. It didn't matter to them that, before the job with the cheating employer, my husband had been out of work for 18 months and we had children to feed. You see, he's a *white* male ... of *course* he had all the money he needed. After all, I had a job ... no matter that I'd had to take a 35% cut in pay to get it.<BR/><BR/>No, we didn't need BOLI's help. We paid for it with our taxes, but they decided we didn't need it.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and BTW ... one of the other guys was hispanic, and the other was of native American descent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151101266818091092006-06-23T15:21:00.000-07:002006-06-23T15:21:00.000-07:00No "White Guilt" for me. In fact I am fed up with ...No "White Guilt" for me. In fact I am fed up with people trying to make me feel guilty for being "white"! <BR/><BR/>So, not being a "person of color" I'm supposed to feel guilty? Fuck you.<BR/><BR/>You don't have to be a "white" man to be racist.<BR/><BR/>"La Raza" of course is the exception. Oh, and the New Black Panthers. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Push also comes to mind. No racism there.<BR/><BR/>Yep, the only people needing to feel guilty are those born "white".<BR/>[You mean I'm the same color as this page?!] <BR/><BR/>I don't worry though, before long "whites" will be in the minority. Then we get <I>our</I> turn to whine and whimper how the [insert color] man is keeping <I>us</I> down!<BR/><BR/>White Privilege my honky ass!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151092646031697212006-06-23T12:57:00.000-07:002006-06-23T12:57:00.000-07:00Deep down most of you must feel guilt over your wh...Deep down most of you must feel guilt over your white privilege or you wouldn't be calling Anon, Mary S and others names over it. Just because you deny it doesn't make it go away. It is around every corner ready to jump up to bit you when you least expect it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151087012760299572006-06-23T11:23:00.000-07:002006-06-23T11:23:00.000-07:00the federal government has NOTHING to do with the ...the federal government has NOTHING to do with the location of gun and liquor stores. business permits and zoning are usually handled at the county level.<BR/><BR/>in Oregon, all liquor sales are handled by the OLCC, which is appointed by the Governor, who has been a democrat for over 20 years. so blame Ted Kulongoski.<BR/><BR/>and while the federal government issues FFL's to gun shop owners, they are given to individuals, not to locations.<BR/><BR/>oh, and if anything, gun laws only hurt minorities because the cost of gun ownership, driven by government regulations, is so high that legal firearm purchases are disproportionately made by affluent white people. thus, it is harder for a poor ghetto person to lawfully protect himself and his family.<BR/><BR/>tard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151084556503511912006-06-23T10:42:00.000-07:002006-06-23T10:42:00.000-07:00Bryan SaxtonDo you think these problems would be h...Bryan Saxton<BR/><BR/>Do you think these problems would be helped by a 40% increase in education spending? <BR/><BR/>Good news is here then. Because thats how much education spending has risen, in constant dollars, since 1981! Here is the link:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ecs.org/clearinghouse/54/16/5416.pdf<BR/><BR/>Now, can we have the next solution please? Or should we just go back to blaming whitey?R Husehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574766285435736911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151075970370927122006-06-23T08:19:00.000-07:002006-06-23T08:19:00.000-07:00I use Batman Band-Aids.Thanks for being tolerant o...I use Batman Band-Aids.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for being tolerant of me. Way to be diverse!<BR/><BR/>You told me to stop feeling sorry for myself? Sounds like you have some advice for yourself.<BR/><BR/>I get treated badly for other reasons. People assume I must be some horrible bigot or racist because I am white and have a shaved head...you try combing over your limited amount of hair and you'll shave your head too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151073563169646082006-06-23T07:39:00.000-07:002006-06-23T07:39:00.000-07:00Ok, maybe some of you don't see the significance o...Ok, maybe some of you don't see the significance of gun and liquor stores in a residential area. In order to place one of these stores in a residential neighborhood, the store must have a licence that is issued by the federal government. <BR/><BR/>If we got these stores off the street, I beleive street violence would drop. However, I beleive that having our government put money into education (say, take 60 billion out of defense, leaving us with a HUGE budget of 400 billion in defense, and putting it into education) after a little bit of time, will result in a drop in the rate of violent crimes among these neighborhoods. Also, the people you are saying should put more of their money into education are already being taxed to the point where they can barely make ends meet.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06631702584431805967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151070747051760702006-06-23T06:52:00.000-07:002006-06-23T06:52:00.000-07:00Oh, ok, I see. This isn’t about white privilege; i...Oh, ok, I see. This isn’t about white privilege; it’s about lack of education. What seems to be happening here is a misunderstanding of the word privilege.<BR/><BR/>To take some of Mary S’s examples – Asking for the boss and seeing a white guy, postcards etc being readily available with white images, etc.<BR/><BR/>Honey – That’s not white privilege, that’s white majority. It is because for the most part this country is composed of white people; therefore you would of course expect to see them more frequently. You would also expect markets to cater to them more.<BR/><BR/>Are you telling me that if I were in China, and I asked to see the boss and a Chinese guy pops out, that’s yellow privilege?<BR/><BR/>Come on; get your morally superior fix off of someone else.R Husehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574766285435736911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151068744781341282006-06-23T06:19:00.000-07:002006-06-23T06:19:00.000-07:00Mary S. you're feeling guilty to the point of keep...Mary S. you're feeling guilty to the point of keeping racism alive and well. You obviously need to continually point out the color of ones skin, to keep your guilt alive. Get over your guilt, get some therapy. If you have this much guilt and life isn't worth living, the State of Oregon offers help...geezAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151055995753954042006-06-23T02:46:00.000-07:002006-06-23T02:46:00.000-07:00Bobkatt is correct in noting that school funding T...Bobkatt is correct in noting that school funding TODAY is driven by income. (There is also a (smaller) correlation with race because of the correlation between income and race.)<BR/><BR/>However, it is a common fallacy to suggest schools are underfunded because a community is unwilling to tax itself. In reality, poor school districts often exert much greater "tax effort" in terms of tax RATES than more affluent communities. For example, a wealthy community with a high tax base might have a tax rate of X, while a poor community with a much smaller tax base might have a tax rate of 2X or 3X - and the poor community is perceived as unwilling to tax itself even though it taxes itself up the wazoo to an extent the rest of us would find intolerable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151054969013382372006-06-23T02:29:00.000-07:002006-06-23T02:29:00.000-07:00White privilege still exists to some extent, altho...White privilege still exists to some extent, although it it not nearly as blatant or pervasive as it once was in the past.<BR/><BR/>As a poor white person, I can say white skin has helped me live in better places than if I were black.<BR/><BR/>But today, in general, privilege is driven more by class than by color. There has been discussion lately about racial profiling in traffic stops. But maybe that is more about class than about race? What were these people driving when they were stopped? I know someone who did some maintenance work for a former employer - he said he used to get stopped on the road in his clunker, but after his grandmother stopped driving and gave him her nicer car, he didn't get stopped any more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151053920856216432006-06-23T02:12:00.000-07:002006-06-23T02:12:00.000-07:00Bryan, racism will always exist. Institutional rac...Bryan, racism will always exist. Institutional racism may exist but your example is pathetic. First, the government does fund public schools everywhere. If schools in Compton are lacking it's because the residents don't want to pay more for schools. 90% of their funding comes from local taxes. The argument about the liquor stores and gun shops has already been established. Perhaps the residents would rather spend their money on guns and booze. It's still a free country, for now.<BR/><I>"I guarantee you, if whites were treated the same way by government, they would be in the same situation."</I><BR/>Whites are treated the same way. What no whites live in the Compton area? It has to do with income level, not skin color. I know that you are not going to agree, but, a lot of the funding problem in all aspects of government has to do with the burden of illegal aliens. According to the CUSD, the average expenditure per student is almost $8000. How many illegal aliens pay anywhere near that in taxes for even one child. And of course by law they can't refuse education even if the child is illegal.Bobkatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388159713103123175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151048218861482632006-06-23T00:36:00.000-07:002006-06-23T00:36:00.000-07:00bryan saxton"allow gun and liquor stores to be mor...bryan saxton<BR/><BR/>"allow gun and liquor stores to be more prominent in their residential areas than corner marts?"<BR/><BR/>Gun and liquor stores are owned and operated by private enterprise, not the government. The government doesn't "allow" these businesses to be more prominent in these areas. These businesses are established and operate under the same market forces as any other business based upon demand for a product. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Mary S. <BR/><BR/>you're nuts. <BR/><BR/>And anonymous talking about band- aids, you're nuts too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151045219282737692006-06-22T23:46:00.000-07:002006-06-22T23:46:00.000-07:00Racism still exists in society, and government pro...Racism still exists in society, and government promotes racism. Conspiracy theory? Then answer me this:<BR/><BR/>Why does government refuse to provide funding to schools in historicly black and impovershed neighborhoods (such as Compton) which are in dire need of funding, but allow gun and liquor stores to be more prominent in their residential areas than corner marts? <BR/><BR/>I guarantee you, if whites were treated the same way by government, they would be in the same situation.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06631702584431805967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151044629307609402006-06-22T23:37:00.000-07:002006-06-22T23:37:00.000-07:00They don't make Band-Aids pale enough for Michael ...They don't make Band-Aids pale enough for Michael Jackson.<BR/><BR/>I prefer the ones with Bob the Builder on them, or maybe dinosaurs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151043248083358312006-06-22T23:14:00.000-07:002006-06-22T23:14:00.000-07:00Excuse me ... when did the appearance of having a ...Excuse me ... when did the appearance of having a booboo constitute a disparagement of a person's race??? It's a freakin' owie, for pity's sake. I personally like colorful ones because they're more "fun" if you have to deal with an ouchie! If someone happens to notice it and offers me a little sympathy and a "how did you get it?", heck, I might get a little interesting conversation ... even from a stranger ... even of another race or economic level. It had just better be English, 'cause my Spanish is awfully rusty. <BR/><BR/>I don't freaking *CARE* about your skin color or your background anymore than you should care about mine.<BR/><BR/>If you have to look at my "melanin-impoverished" person and think bad thoughts about me just 'cause I'm "beige" ... that makes *you* a racist, too. My mother taught me better than that!<BR/><BR/>I don't give a rat's ass if your skin color is black, white, purple, pink, plaid or polka dot. If you bleed red, you're human, and that's good enough for me. If you bleed red and are a bitch, you're a bitch no matter what color your skin is. If you bleed red and you're a bastard, your skin color "ain't gonna make no difference"...<BR/><BR/>You don't have to be white to be a racist! Grow up whiny-assed liberals and stop looking for slights in every little human interaction so you can feel morally superior to the rest of the "unenlightened". I don't think you're that "enlightened" ... I think you're awfully DIM!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151038612779123062006-06-22T21:56:00.000-07:002006-06-22T21:56:00.000-07:00Mary S you are what can only be called stupidMary S<BR/> you are what can only be called stupidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151034698262637372006-06-22T20:51:00.000-07:002006-06-22T20:51:00.000-07:00Mary -You just may be an idiot ifeverything that h...Mary -<BR/><BR/>You just may be an idiot if<BR/><BR/>everything that has to do with your life revolves around perceived slights.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151032733098261032006-06-22T20:18:00.000-07:002006-06-22T20:18:00.000-07:00Speaking reason to a bunch of ingrates IS tough as...Speaking reason to a bunch of ingrates IS tough as well. When bigotry and racism monopolizes ones life like it does many in anti-immigrant crowd even speaking to them lowers yourself to their level. <BR/><BR/>Maybe those that claim to be Christians can learn the true meaning of being one and move past their hatred.<BR/><BR/>Anon made a good attempt at giving some examples of white privilege. The following are more examples of ways white individuals have privilege because they are white. <BR/><BR/>1. I can arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.<BR/>2. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed<BR/>or harassed.<BR/>3. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my<BR/>race widely represented.<BR/>4. When I am told about our national heritage or about ìcivilization,î I am shown that people<BR/>of my color made it what it is.<BR/>5. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the<BR/>existence of their race.<BR/>6. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a<BR/>supermarket and find the food I grew up with, into a hairdresserís shop and find someone<BR/>who can deal with my hair.<BR/>7. Whether I use checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work<BR/>against the appearance of financial responsibility.<BR/>8. I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing, or body odor will be taken as a<BR/>reflection on my race.<BR/>9. I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.<BR/>10. I can take a job or enroll in a college with an affirmative action policy without having my<BR/>co-workers or peers assume I got it because of my race.<BR/>11. I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.<BR/>12. I can choose public accommodation with out fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated.<BR/>13. I am never asked to speak for all of the people of my racial group.<BR/>14. I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk with the "person in charge" I will be facing a<BR/>person of my race.<BR/>15. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven"t<BR/>been singled out because of my race.<BR/>16. I can easily by posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and<BR/>childrenís magazines featuring people of my race.<BR/>17. I can choose blemish cover or bandages in ìfleshî color and have them more or less match<BR/>my skin.<BR/>18. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.<BR/>19. I can walk into a classroom and know I will not be the only member of my race.<BR/>20. I can enroll in a class at college and be sure that the majority of my professors will be of my race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151031930212114652006-06-22T20:05:00.001-07:002006-06-22T20:05:00.001-07:00You find endless government and private sector job...<EM>You find endless government and private sector jobs that say either explicitly or implicitly “reserved for non whites”. You think to yourself, “wow, I wish the biggest problem facing me was Band Aid selection”.</EM><BR/><BR/>You just illustrated "white priviledge with this comment. Maybe you should quite bitching and learn a skill, then you would have a job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151031911032714992006-06-22T20:05:00.000-07:002006-06-22T20:05:00.000-07:00Oh – and PS. What’s the biggest myth about white p...Oh – and PS. What’s the biggest myth about white privilege? It is that those who espouse this myth care about non-whites. They don’t. They merely go on about it so they can feel morally superior to the rest of us. Minorities? They don’t give a rats ass, that’s why they condescend to them and treat them like children. Look, bottom line is everyone has a history of being discriminated against. My family is Scotch Irish. You want to talk about discrimination? Only the blacks beat us out, and not by much. Why did we succeed? For one, we didn’t have a bunch of whiteys trying to build up their moral superiority on our backs. Can you tell this one tweaks me? OOOoooo I would so make sock and sandal morally superior vest wearing natural food eating whole grain skinny ass sensitive white liberal guys illegal if I were in charge.R Husehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574766285435736911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1151031347192062232006-06-22T19:55:00.000-07:002006-06-22T19:55:00.000-07:00A Band Aid – Are you kidding me? I think we can sa...A Band Aid – Are you kidding me? I think we can safely say with complete and absolute certainty that white privilege is a myth. If Band Aid selection is the best one can come up with to illustrate a point then there is most certainly not a problem.<BR/><BR/>As a counter example, consider this. You have been told all your life not only are you privileged but you are to blame for all the worlds troubles. You graduate from college and go looking for a job. You find endless government and private sector jobs that say either explicitly or implicitly “reserved for non whites”. You think to yourself, “wow, I wish the biggest problem facing me was Band Aid selection”. Thats the real world.<BR/><BR/>Get over it, if something is so subtle you have to go to Band Aids, maybe it isn’t even there.R Husehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05574766285435736911noreply@blogger.com