tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post114476350465532757..comments2024-02-19T00:14:24.293-08:00Comments on Daniel's political musings: Live from Downtown PortlandDanielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14946233454014389006noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144959532110282022006-04-13T13:18:00.000-07:002006-04-13T13:18:00.000-07:00calhoun, you're right. let's start with you. why n...calhoun, you're right. let's start with you. why not post your address?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144950437204062132006-04-13T10:47:00.000-07:002006-04-13T10:47:00.000-07:00It seems that every time these illegal alien riote...It seems that every time these illegal alien rioters arrive on scene to disrupt honest people's lifes, someone always shows up with a big picture of Che. It shows their true leanings, doesn't it?Scottiebillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15554361011951413954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144945978140891302006-04-13T09:32:00.000-07:002006-04-13T09:32:00.000-07:00Illegals' Amnesty Could Cost $60 Billion a Year, G...Illegals' Amnesty Could Cost $60 Billion a Year, Group Says<BR/>By Randy Hall<BR/>CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor<BR/>April 11, 2006<BR/>http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200604/NAT20060411c.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>(CNSNews.com) - If an illegal immigrant amnesty or guest worker program similar to the ones being contemplated by the U.S. Senate and supported by President Bush were enacted, the cost to state and local governments would be staggering, an immigration reform group charged Tuesday.<BR/><BR/>The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates that state and local costs associated with illegal immigration for public education, health care and incarceration, now about $36 billion a year, would balloon to $61.5 billion by 2010 -- a 70 percent increase -- and increase to $106.3 billion by 2020.<BR/><BR/>As a result of an amnesty and a vastly expanded guest worker program, millions of current illegal aliens would gain legal access to government programs and services, a FAIR analysis states.<BR/><BR/>Moreover, newly legalized aliens would be allowed to bring their dependents to this country, adding to the burdens on schools and public health care. Similarly, state and local governments would have to provide for the education and health care of the dependents of the 400,000 new guest workers called for in the Senate proposal.<BR/><BR/>"From every possible angle, an illegal alien amnesty and guest worker program would be a fiscal and administrative nightmare," said Dan Stein, president of FAIR. "Never mind the fact that an illegal alien amnesty is a moral betrayal of the American public and immigrants who played by the rules.<BR/><BR/>"It would be an unfunded federal mandate that will bankrupt states, counties and cities all across the United States," Stein added.<BR/><BR/>Contrary to claims by proponents of amnesty, the tax contributions of newly legalized illegal aliens would not offset the additional costs, he stated. The estimated 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S. are overwhelmingly poorly educated and low skilled.<BR/><BR/>Even with legalization, their earning potential would be very limited, Stein noted. With the ability to legitimately claim dependents on their returns, their tax contributions would be negligible at best, and with programs like the Earned Income Tax Credit, many will actually get more back than they pay in.<BR/><BR/>None of the federal or local costs associated with an illegal alien amnesty or a massive guest worker program has even been considered as part of the Senate's deliberations, he said.<BR/><BR/>When asked point blank about the ramifications of their proposed legislation, Senate amnesty and guest worker supporters admitted that they have not been worked out. "The devil is in the details," said the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, Patrick Leahy of Vermont.<BR/><BR/>"'The devil is in the details' is an utterly reckless and irresponsible way to conduct public policy," responded Stein. "The fiscal, social, environmental and demographic consequences of what the Senate is proposing would be staggering.<BR/><BR/>"In an effort to respond to special interest pressure, the Senate and the Bush administration seem prepared to rush forward without any rational assessment of what it would mean for the future of the nation," he noted.<BR/><BR/>"We have seen where the 'devil is in the details' approach has gotten us in Iraq. The president and others pushing amnesty and guest workers have an obligation to think this one all the way through before acting," Stein concluded.<BR/><BR/>A breakdown of the calculation of amnesty costs and a state by state impact analysis can be found at FAIR's website.<BR/>http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_localcostsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144870389896859912006-04-12T12:33:00.000-07:002006-04-12T12:33:00.000-07:00Just a constructive suggestion : too many "anonymo...Just a constructive suggestion : too many "anonymouses" in one thread is no fun.<BR/><BR/>When you post, click "Other", and put some kind of name there.<BR/><BR/>(If you preview your post, you'll have to click "other" <I>again</I> before you click "publish your comment".)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144817891521156012006-04-11T21:58:00.000-07:002006-04-11T21:58:00.000-07:00Racist!Racist!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144805290386846322006-04-11T18:28:00.000-07:002006-04-11T18:28:00.000-07:00hey, max, succinct and pithy.....well done.hey, max, succinct and pithy.....well done.BEARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127559050411509374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144801393224158702006-04-11T17:23:00.000-07:002006-04-11T17:23:00.000-07:00I have a suggestion for Anonymous 2 (the second to...I have a suggestion for Anonymous 2 (the second to post on this thread):<BR/><BR/>If you want to be a turd, go lay on the lawn.MAX Redlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12040240474444763721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144800159039989382006-04-11T17:02:00.000-07:002006-04-11T17:02:00.000-07:00Doing the blogs that Mexicans won't do Hey, pretty...<I>Doing the blogs that Mexicans won't do</I> Hey, pretty good Daniel (wets finger, makes one-stroke in the air).davidhamiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09298960390582070502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144798876622704412006-04-11T16:41:00.000-07:002006-04-11T16:41:00.000-07:00Please know that software is available that allows...Please know that software is available that allows blogers to track back and id those posting on their site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144795853627847122006-04-11T15:50:00.000-07:002006-04-11T15:50:00.000-07:00The Mexicans are hypocrites. Why, look at their i...The Mexicans are hypocrites. Why, look at their immigration policies, but also look at Cinco de Mayo. What does it celebrate?<BR/>It celibrates the ousting from Mexico of an Austrian Duke, Maximillion, placed on the throne by French Emperor Napoleon III.<BR/>A Mexican army defeated Frances' minions. Eventually, the defeated Maxmillion was executed by the victorious Mexicans.<BR/><BR/>Now Mexicans and their collaborators want the American people to roll over. FORGET ABOUT IT. The game is up, you Davos, open border, corporate elite; Americans aren't turning over the Country to illegal, border jumping Mexicans. No Amnesty. Political defeat for turncoats who promote amnesty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144793857519144972006-04-11T15:17:00.000-07:002006-04-11T15:17:00.000-07:00as bad as the oregonian is, the klamath falls hera...as bad as the oregonian is, the klamath falls herald & news must be the leading promoter for illegal aliens in oregon. during the week that began 3/25/06 this illegal-friendly rag ran three separate front page stories with accompanying 5 x 7 color photos below the fold and inside of happy mexicans in klamath basin. presumably they were legal but still the H&N hasn't met a mexican it didn't like. in fact an outsider would get the impression that mexicans comprise 50% or more of our population and are all hard working, happy, inciteful, clever, philosophical, religious and law abiding. but, the H & N publisher really licks herself all over during the may mexican celebrations. no surprise here. hell, according to FAIR rep. greg walden is a stealth open border mexican fan and gordon smith simply wants to legalize the entire nation of mexico. i'll bet the H & N agrees with that. if you like in klamath falls and are noticing more and more mexicans walking your streets during the day and night, you can thank H&N, Walden, Smith and the entire democrat party. Certainly there are others but you can start expressing your gratitude with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144791790315912292006-04-11T14:43:00.000-07:002006-04-11T14:43:00.000-07:00But the (D)emocrats want... Illegal aliens to prov...But the (D)emocrats want... <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.danegerus.com/weblog/Comments.asp?svComment=14233" REL="nofollow"><BR/><B>Illegal aliens to provide the votes American's won't. </B></A>DANEgerushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583889628692284825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144787448179675252006-04-11T13:30:00.000-07:002006-04-11T13:30:00.000-07:00To Anon. 1:06 PM, If I'm talking straight out of m...To Anon. 1:06 PM, If I'm talking straight out of my ass, then the excrament is going straight into your mouth, pinch your nose, swollow, and pretend it tastes good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144785987653022062006-04-11T13:06:00.001-07:002006-04-11T13:06:00.001-07:00Both Republicans and Democrats are against amnesty...Both Republicans and Democrats are against amnesty. This is a Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854 moment. The Act split the Country, split the Democratic Party, eliminated the Whig Party, and gave birth to the Republican Party. That act opened the territories to slavery, the Senate compromise AMNESTY bill opens the face of America to illegal aliens and "cheap labor". People back in 1854 knew slavery in the territories would undercut and displace free labor, the parallel is striking. Illegal cheap labor undercuts and displaces American Citizen's labor.<BR/><BR/>If we can't stop it now and our politicians sell us out to the illegal street mob and the Davos open border corporate elite, then they deserve nothing, but our scorn and rejection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144785976819019422006-04-11T13:06:00.000-07:002006-04-11T13:06:00.000-07:00Unlike you, anon, who appears to be talking straig...Unlike you, anon, who appears to be talking straight out of his ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144785054757972482006-04-11T12:50:00.000-07:002006-04-11T12:50:00.000-07:00Hillary Clinton. The queen of hipocracy, ya, line ...Hillary Clinton. The queen of hipocracy, ya, line up behind her. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth like most collaborators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144784580982098292006-04-11T12:43:00.000-07:002006-04-11T12:43:00.000-07:00To Anon 11:31 AM, What racism? Sorry Charlie, tha...To Anon 11:31 AM, What racism? Sorry Charlie, that will not work. Can you point to one specific instance of racism? What, a history lesson is racist? Your arguments are bankrupt.<BR/>The racism you fail to talk about is your own. La Raza!? The race, Metcha, Nation of Atazlan. Give me a break. Mexican flags, hypocracy is thy name, look at Mexico's immigration policy. The charge of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel who has nothing left. <BR/><BR/>The polls? They are turning against amnesty as the truth is winning out against media bias. You can't hide the spectacle of the protests of illegal aliens and the collaborators. You can't hide the threats of economic disruption if the illegal's demands are not met.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144784569113929192006-04-11T12:42:00.000-07:002006-04-11T12:42:00.000-07:00Okay Chris...whatever...and the melting of the pol...Okay Chris...whatever...and the melting of the polar ice cap is a myth as well...blah, blah, blah<BR/><BR/>http://www.cr.nps.gov/archeology/kennewick/<BR/><BR/>"We now have sufficient information to determine that these skeletal remains should be considered "Native American" as defined by NAGPRA. The results of recent radiocarbon dating of small samples of bone extracted from the remains were given significant weight in making this determination. This interpretation is supported by other analyses and information regarding the skeletal remains themselves, sedimentary analysis, lithic analysis, an earlier radiocarbon date on a bone recovered with the other remains, and geomorphologic analysis."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144783953849681452006-04-11T12:32:00.000-07:002006-04-11T12:32:00.000-07:00It's pathetic, All I hear is what this country can...It's pathetic, All I hear is what this country can't or won't do. <BR/>Can't deport lawbreakers.<BR/>Can't run our own ports.<BR/>Won't do some jobs.<BR/>Remember, all this negativity is coming from the media that can't do it's job and can't remember how this country became as great as it is. Screw these naysayers, buck up and kick some ass.<BR/>Our pioneer forefathers would be rolling in their grave to see the bunch of pansies we've become.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144783548761906092006-04-11T12:25:00.000-07:002006-04-11T12:25:00.000-07:00No amnesty=my vote.No amnesty=my vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144780314779375482006-04-11T11:31:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:31:00.000-07:00Anon -- Your racist-sounding nativist rhetoric is ...Anon -- Your racist-sounding nativist rhetoric is enough to make every voting citizen who's even close to being a minority support amnesty. You should have talked to Pete Wilson before you launched this campaign. Thanks for making this an election issue. Get ready to reap the whirlwind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144779953777410612006-04-11T11:25:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:25:00.000-07:00Remember, the illegals can't vote and neither can ...Remember, the illegals can't vote and neither can resident legals. These marches are hollow threats, but must be taken seriously. "protest today, vote tomorrow." is a false threat today, but is a real treat after amnesty. NO AMNESTY!<BR/><BR/>Rallying Cry "NO AMNESTY, NO AMNESTY, NO AMNESTY, NO AMNESTY, NO AMNESTY."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144779556773932622006-04-11T11:19:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:19:00.000-07:00Insist on NO AMNESTY to Senator Gordon Smith, tell...Insist on NO AMNESTY to Senator Gordon Smith, tell Smith he will not get your vote in the next election if he votes for amnesty.<BR/>Gordon Smith must be made to smell the acrid smell of defeat in his nostrils.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144778817404521022006-04-11T11:06:00.000-07:002006-04-11T11:06:00.000-07:00Don't listen to the amnesty crew. They say we can...Don't listen to the amnesty crew. They say we can't get rid of illegal aliens already here. That is flat out LIE. All we have to do is dry up the sources of support for illegal aliens. Prevent business from getting a business expense tax deduction for employees the business can't prove is a legal resident. This keeps the courts from clogging up, but sends a very strong message to business not to hire illegals. Stop illegal aliens from getting Oregon drivers license. Stop illegals from using banks. Put this all together and illegal aliens will self deport. After two years, then add pressure and work to deport the holdouts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11266150.post-1144777801489602442006-04-11T10:50:00.000-07:002006-04-11T10:50:00.000-07:00A lot of people knew for a long time O'Reilly spli...A lot of people knew for a long time O'Reilly split the baby, what took you so long?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com